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SnowBear winch: cable or chain?

Discussion in 'Jeeps' started by J-Quad, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    Hi Fellas,

    This past summer, I bought an '95 Wrangler with aSnowBear snowplow. As you all know, this plow is pretty simple, manually turned & held by a pin and NOT equipped with any hydraulics; only a winch to lift the plow.

    The previous owner equipped the winch with a length of chain to raise/lower the snow blade. I'm fairly certain that the winch was originally equipped with a cable.

    1) Would it be 'happier' if it had a length of cable on there instead of the chain or would the cable just want to "spool up" and turn into a snarled birds-nest mess when it was lowered and the tension was off the cable?

    2) Does the length of chain seem like a better deal to you guys? :confused:

    Thanks in advance for your opinions/advice, Guys!

    J-Quad :drinkup:
     
  2. Drottlawn

    Drottlawn Senior Member
    Messages: 364

    The older models had chain lifts. I used to own one back in the day. I would stick to the chain. The only thing I did to mine was replace the chain with a longer one so the plow would stay on the ground when going over a hump or such. The new models use a seat belt looking strap to raise them. Stay chain, it is bomb proof.
     
  3. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    DL,
    Thanks for the tip! I will heed your advice! :salute:

    So - since you ran one of these plows for a while, any other tips you care to share with a guy who's never ran one? :blush2:

    What about where to mount/hold the electric controller - right now it's just loose laying on the floor next to the shifters...... ?

    By the way, my '95 is a 4cyl with a 5speed manual; new Rough Country shocks and OEM leafs springs in the front. If I'm recalling correctly, the tires are 29" tall....

    J-Quad :cool:
     
  4. Drottlawn

    Drottlawn Senior Member
    Messages: 364

    As for the controller, I would tuck the wire between my seat and arm rest. I would have the long flat side of the control box next to my hip, so it was comfortable and easy to get too.
    I noticed your in mid michigan, that is where my snowbear is now. Its in midland, with my brother in law. Sorry, I am rambling.
    Anything else let me know
     
  5. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    Cool....... on the side of the seat - that sounds like a good & do-able plan! :D

    Ok, I'm not too shy :eek: - here are a few more questions:

    How about any greasing or lubrication anywhere?

    Did you frequently turn/angle your plow or did you use it mostly in the straight position?

    Did you use "skids" or feet on your plow - if so, how high/low were they adjusted to?

    Do you recommend a yellow flashing light - if so, any ideas as to type or where to mount it?

    J-Quad :drinkup:
     
  6. Drottlawn

    Drottlawn Senior Member
    Messages: 364

    I hope this helps!
     
  7. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    No skids,,,,,,?????....... WHY no skids??? :dizzy:

    My plow has the two skid pads / feet attached to the bottom.
    Do you recommend I take them off ?? :help:

    Are the skids designed just for plowing paved surfaces and thus preserving the life of the plow bottom edge?

    My driveway is non-paved (dirt/gravel/grass), fairly long (probably about 800-900 ft), crowned, curved, non-flat and has a circle loop near the house. Sounds like I need to sit on the porch with a cold beer, staring at the drive thinking about my "gameplan" and how/where I'll push the white stuff........

    Thanks again for all the advice, DL! :salute:
    J-Quad :drinkup:
     
  8. Drottlawn

    Drottlawn Senior Member
    Messages: 364

    Since you are going on gravel/dirt, run the skid shoes. They will prevent the plow from plowing up your gravel and dirt. The shoes do not make the scraper last any longer on pavement, although in your case they will since the shoes will keep the scraper up of the ground slightly. Run the scraper up enough so that the plow doesn't plow your gravel.
    Sounds like you will be keeping your plow turned most of the time. Happy Thinking!:salute::drinkup:
     
  9. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    I think I follow your logic....... Thanks again for all of your helpful and insightful advice, DL !

    Hmmmmmm,,,,,,,this might take more than one beer to decipher........ ;)

    J-Quad :drinkup: :drinkup: :drinkup:
     
  10. '76cj5

    '76cj5 Member
    Messages: 78

    I have a bunch of gravel drives I plow and the skis just dig in deeper into the gravel until the stuff freezes over . Then its not bad. I just lower my plow until it hits and then raise it about 1", works good that way,

    You will go crazy trying to clean off a gravel drive. Most of my customers realize that and leaving 1/2 to 1" of snow down is OK with them.

    I've been toying with welding a 2" wide srip of steel on the botom of my cutting edge for the wholw width like some farm plows have on them. Then it can ride on top of the gravel but under the snow. .
     
  11. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    [QUOTE='76cj5;644594]I I've been toying with welding a 2" wide srip of steel on the botom of my cutting edge for the wholw width like some farm plows have on them. Then it can ride on top of the gravel but under the snow. .[/QUOTE]

    That does sound like an interesting idea........ if you do it, you'll have to report back to us.

    J-Quad :drinkup:
     
  12. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    [QUOTE='76cj5;644594] I just lower my plow until it hits and then raise it about 1", works good that way. [/QUOTE]

    Well - I plowed my first driveway (my own) tonight with my YJ ! I took your advise and was able to get it done without incident! wesport
    It was 5-6" of heavy, wet snow. By morning, it would of been ugly trying to shovel or drive outta my place! With some more practice I'm sure it'll take me less time and I'll do a better job. I may even try my luck with a couple other driveways (friends of mine) once I've got a tad more confidence with the rig.

    A THOUSAND THANKS to everyone on this site and especially those on this Jeep forum! :drinkup::drinkup:

    J-Quad :)



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  13. cherokeeman

    cherokeeman Member
    Messages: 58

    was wondering i know its late in the season was wondering if anybody needs a extra plow for driveways ihave a 96 cherokee that plows like hell in the methuen mass eara sorry about my spelling sometimes i get ahead of myself thanks
     
  14. champlainl

    champlainl Member
    Messages: 65

    how is the chain attached to the winch,is there a special clamp to attach it to the drum of the winch?
     
  15. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    Yes, there is a sort of U-clamp that attaches it to the drum.
    I have no problems with it - it seems to work well because it doesn't need much travel length.

    J-Quad :D
     
  16. champlainl

    champlainl Member
    Messages: 65

    i"ll try it

    thanks, I just bought some stainless u-bolts and I think I"ll attach it that way, is the ubolt attached in the center of the drum or to the side ? Hopefully the wind stops blowin this weekend so I can do it,thanks again
     
  17. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    Ok, I went and looked at it closer.....
    The chain fastens to the winch barrel via a two-piece clamshell type affair that clamps together with two short bolts on one end and a U-bolt on the other end. If the clamshell bolts are loose, the winch barrel will turn, but nothing will lift because it'll spin inside the clamshell. The end chain link is looped through the U-bolt and then the U-bolt is tightened to the two clamshell halves. It's actual link is centered on the U-bolt, but it doesn't really matter as the barrel has lots of space to wrap the short chain on. It's really kinda crude and/or simple, but it works just fine.... If you're going to try to use a standard U-bolt, you'll likely still need some sort of plate on the back side so you can tighten it up to the barrel. Good Luck!

    Let us know how it works out for ya.......
    If I could provide a picture it would be easier, but I can't do that for ya....sorry. :eek:

    J-Quad :cool:
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2009
  18. champlainl

    champlainl Member
    Messages: 65

    where could I get that clam shell thing ? SB probably doesn't carry them any more and I'm sure the oem winch is prbably differnt from my aftermarket harbor freight winch. And yes I will be using the backing plate (2 of them) on the u-bolt
     
  19. champlainl

    champlainl Member
    Messages: 65

    phantomracer has a couple of pics on here of that winch set up,wish I had one (clam shells) and wish I had some real clams also lol
     
  20. J-Quad

    J-Quad Member
    Messages: 95

    I'd call them and see what they can do for ya........ They might still service the "clamshells".

    SNOWBEAR, Ltd.; 1-800-337-2327

    J-Quad :cool: