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Snow Tires vs Tire Chains

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by northernnewbie, Nov 18, 2006.

  1. northernnewbie

    northernnewbie Member
    Messages: 31

    I'm currently using Remington Wide Brute RV's on 16" rims, Chevy 2500HD 4x4. Do I need snow tires or will some bad ass tire chains and enough ballast do the job?
     
  2. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    I tried using chains a couple years ago. Worked real good until I went on the first job which had a steep hill. Lost traction and wrapped the broken links around a brake line and ... well you know the rest. When I got it out of the shop, it had snow tires to go with the new brake line.
     
  3. Grn Mtn

    Grn Mtn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,644

    Cooper Discoverer M+S snow tires and some ballast are all you need unless your in the Rockies:D
     
  4. mcwlandscaping

    mcwlandscaping 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,557

    what is the difference between the M+S tires and the ATR's? I need new tires and want to do that early this week but dont know what to get. I know i want the cooper discovers but i dont know weather the ATR's or the M+S are better. What is the difference?

    thanks
     
  5. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    ATR stands for All Terrain Radial. These tires are constructed for year-round use is all types of situations. Good, but, like anything else, not as good in situations (like plowing) as something made specifically for that situation - like the:

    M&S (Mud and Snow) tire, which is softer than the ATR. It is made to give a better "grip" on surfaces such as ice and snow by being flexible, therefore "shedding" snow that gets between the treads and sipes. BUT - because it is softer, it will wear faster on dry pavement. If you run M&S tires, you will also want a set of Summer tires and swap in Spring as soon as most of the snow is gone.

    I'm waiting for the first good snow before I put my studded Cooper M&S's on. I generally take them off in late March.
     
  6. Grn Mtn

    Grn Mtn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,644

    Mick is right, but since I don't live in Vermont anymore, studding is not necessary-it would just chew up the asphalt drives.

    My first truck was a 2wd Ford Ranger regular cab long bed, I had extra leaf springs put in, a heavy duty clutch and 410 rear-end. It was only a standard 4 banger but boy did I work that truck like a 1 ton:nod: Anyways, I had to put studded snows on it but what a difference.
     
  7. mcwlandscaping

    mcwlandscaping 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,557

    thanks guys, so since i plan on getting a set of the 2500HD chrome billet wheels in the spring, ill get the M+S mounted to my current wheels then come spring, have the ATRs put on the new wheels and just switch out wheels....SWEET!
     
  8. jcesar

    jcesar Senior Member
    from Mi
    Messages: 492

    Buy the m+s tires. they rock in snow, and ice. However, I wont run them. I bought a new set last year, and had bad luck with the lugs snappng off. Defective, but man did they bite!!!
     
  9. mcwlandscaping

    mcwlandscaping 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,557

    forgot to ask, anyone have a ballpark on what a set of cooper discoverer M+S would be?? installed, balanced...the whole lot!
     
  10. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    I just asked about a set last week - LT245/75/16. $113 a tire. Balanced & installed.
     
  11. northernnewbie

    northernnewbie Member
    Messages: 31

    thanks for the advice guys! :nod: information like this is priceless.