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Snow Plow: Timbren Vs Bilstein

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by GBjunior87, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. GBjunior87

    GBjunior87 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I'm in the process of purchasing a Fisher SD series plow for my 07 Tundra. I was looking for some feedback on what is better to purchase to help with front end sag?.. Timbren or Bilstein??.. I read some forums on both but still going back and forth on them. I talked with plow dealer and they said a lot of people have Timbren. I was also wondering about ride comfort with Timbren?

    Thanks.
     
  2. JSutter101

    JSutter101 Member
    Messages: 79

    I have Bilstein 5100's on my Frontier. I would absolutely recommend them. I have mine set at 2" of lift.

    I have not installed or used Timbrens, but I have seen them in person. I'm not really impressed with them as I like suspension travel. The only way I'd recommend them is if you do not want to lift your truck.

    How are your struts now? If they have more than 60k miles I'd say replace them.
     
  3. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,922

    I had 3 or 4 trucks with Timbrens once upon a time, never again.
     
  4. mercer_me

    mercer_me PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,361

    I have Bilstein 5100's on my Tundra with an 8' HD Fisher. I also would absolutely recommend them. I have mine set at 2.5" of lift. I also have Timbrens but, it doesn't even ride on them unless I hit a bump. With a 7.5' SD I would just go with Bilstiens. You won't need Timbrens with a light plow.
     
  5. Diesel Dan

    Diesel Dan Senior Member
    Messages: 218

    I am happy with timbrens on my 2500HD but I didn't lift it, just wanted something a little stiffer than the factory rubber spring when hitting bumps carrying a V plow and the heavy diesel engine. My dad has a VXT on his duramax without timbrens and gets along just fine.
     
  6. Aero750

    Aero750 Junior Member
    Messages: 11


    can you explain why you say never again. I been thinking about timbrens for my f250. all I heard and read is all good
     
  7. Kwise

    Kwise Senior Member
    Messages: 123

    They do make the ride rough but they definitely help carry the weight of a plow
     
  8. GBjunior87

    GBjunior87 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Thanks guys for your input!
    I'm definitely going to get a set of Bilstein 5100's
    One more quick question what's a good height to set them at?
    Cause I like my truck at the stock height I just want enough height to support the plow and clearance.
    Thanks Again.
     
  9. Plowtoy

    Plowtoy Senior Member
    Messages: 929

    I wouldn't recommend a shock to do a springs work... Shock mounts aren't designed to carry a load and you run the risk of breaking off the mount itself. I've run timbrens on 2 of my vehicles with no troubles. Probably the best thing you could do is upgrade your springs if you are having saging troubles or downgrade your plow to a much lighter plow.
     
  10. GBjunior87

    GBjunior87 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I'm looking to get the Fisher SD series which weighs around 480lbs..I've heard from a lot of plow owners that have tundras and they use the SD Plow they recommend the shocks. The fisher dealer also recommend this plow cause it's a light plow The other plow owners also said the timbrens are only effective if you hit a bump and a cause a rough ride.
     
  11. Plowtoy

    Plowtoy Senior Member
    Messages: 929

    That's not necessarily true... Timbrens, when installed correctly, have about 1/2 to 1 inch clearance between the bottom of the Timbren and the top of the control arm or whatever surface it is supposed to make contact with. When you are running with out the plow, you should notice no difference in ride quality because the factory shocks and springs are absorbing the load. Its when you have the plow on and raised the Timbrens become effective.

    If your really worried about it, you should consider a 3/4 ton or bigger truck to plow with. Light duty trucks and half tons really aren't designed for plowing, although everybody, including myself, does it.
     
  12. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,922

    Sorry, missed this.

    Very rough ride. Hitting a pothole and bottoming out hard caused me to cringe.

    Had them on a leaf spring truck and we broke the pins in the draw latch regularly. Removed the Timbrens and the problem stipped.

    Had them on 2 coil sprung trucks. Frames cracked on both. Partially from the Timbrens, partially because blizzard changed the truck side mount and the rear bolt was too close to a factory hole in the frame.

    Air bags carry the weight without sacrificing the ride.
     
  13. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,554

    X2 on bags..
     
  14. mercer_me

    mercer_me PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,361

    A Toyota Tundra with a 7.5' SD Fisher DOES NOT need Timbrens or air bags on the front end.

    I set my Bilstein 5100's all the way up so, I can get the full 2.5" lift.
     
  15. GBjunior87

    GBjunior87 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Thanks again guys for all your helpful info
     
  16. GBjunior87

    GBjunior87 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Thanks for your input
     
  17. Plowtoy

    Plowtoy Senior Member
    Messages: 929

    It probably DOES NOT need Bilstein's either... It would probably do just fine with the factory suspension. The op just desires to minimize sag, and all the products listed above I'm sure will do the job. Its really an opinion on what is going to do the best job. From an ASE certified mechanic point of view, If I'm going to add aftermarket parts, I still wouldn't put the additional stress on my shock towers... I would put it where the factory would...
     
  18. immortal.ben

    immortal.ben Member
    Messages: 65

    This is the most technically correct answer. If you think you need to install Timbrens, what you really need is a stiffer suspension. Timbrens are a cheap way of covering up an inadequate suspension.

    I run Bilsteins, but I also installed a very beefy suspension. The leafs or coils, depending in your truck, and their mounts, are engineered to take the abuse.
     
  19. PLOWMAN45

    PLOWMAN45 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,847

    im not running anything just a few cranks of torsion bars
     
  20. Snow Commandor

    Snow Commandor Senior Member
    from 07666
    Messages: 439

    You're absolutely right Plowtoy! Timbrens are only active when u have a plow raised and otherwise they have no affect on the ride quality.