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Snow markers on brick

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by ducaticorse, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    I have an incredibly sensitive account that has polished marble borders in the parking areas on a paver drive. I need to mark the boundaries and am thinking I'm going to have to bore into the pavers with a hammer drill to set the markers. Any thoughts on this?
     
  2. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    Into the pavers that are installed at ground level?

    If that was my driveway I'd have to shoot you for doing this.

    Now if you're talking about drilling into loose pavers, installing the marker in the hole and setting these on top of the existing pavers marking your borders...now your thinking.:drinkup:
     
  3. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    LOL, gee thanks... Yes, I was thinking of driving directly into the pavers. They are easily replaced and I thought it would be a good way to have the sticks set up on a semi permanent basis. The holes would he half inch maybe less, and wouldnt be noticeable unless you were looking for them. Otherwise, I'd have to buy a half pallet of pavers for this layout to mark it out as you suggested, and still have to worry about them getting jostled during a push.
     
  4. born2farm

    born2farm 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,310

    I'm not understanding. Its a highly sensitive account yet there going to let you drill holes in the pagers to put up markers?
     
  5. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    It's sensitive in the respect that it is a billion dollar technology firm that is OCD about "black pavement" pre treating, trucking excess snow etc. I have authorization to do the drilling, that isn't the issue here. I was just throwing out the question here to see if anyone had other ideas besides drilling.
     
  6. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    Can't think of any.

    Do you do get to charge them in the spring for replaceing the pavers you drill into?
     
  7. jasonv

    jasonv PlowSite.com Addict
    from kannada
    Messages: 1,114

    Why not just pull out pavers in the spots you need to mark and pile them up on the back of the building? Drop them back in place in the spring.

    Also, give a WIDE berth to the marble corners. If they crack and you didn't even touch them, they'll probably blame you. At least if you keep back 4 feet from them, there's nothing they can do to pin it on you.
     
  8. bmwe0692

    bmwe0692 Junior Member
    Messages: 8

    Can you try two L shaped pieces. Weld a arrow type piece on one long L, so it can't twist. Drive it into the ground,measure the off-set, weld the short side with the long L up. Instill flag and there you go. After plowing season just pull-up and save for next season. Might have a greater cost of all the metal, than drilling the holes.
    Easy-pizy nice and easy.

    T.J.
     
  9. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,157

    Slide a piece of scrap sheet metal down beside the paver, you'll have to play with how to attach the marker. I would think you could drive it into the base layer straight, wrap it around the marker and add a hose clamp.
     
  10. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    They will pay to replace, however I don't anticipate the need. I dont think a well placed half inch hole in the paver will destroy the whole block.
     
  11. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,485

    I think you're "incredibly sensitive":waving: I think the drilling will break the paver, or they will crack with the freeze/thaw cycles after water gets into the marker hole.

    This is what I was thinking, but don't get into the base material. If the base is messed up, they will settle unevenly.

    How about these marking flags until you establish a snow berm to work off of. Thin enough to not disturb much of anything.
    http://www.gemplers.com/shop/marking-flags
     
  12. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    I thought about breakage during the drilling, but figured if I kept using fresh masonry bits I'd be all set.

    I really like the flag idea though. It will reduce my work load considerably, this lot is a veritable mine field of marble. Thank you for that.Thumbs Up

    And yes, I can be a lil sensitive sometimes :drinkup:
     
  13. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,485

    Don't know if they will stand up in the snow though.I would think they should. The lot sounds like a PITA, but I,m sure it pays well. Good luck with it.
     
  14. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    Like you said previously, they only need to hold up until I develop a berm. Then I can put in the snow stakes. Plus this edging work is all bobcat.

    Lot is a PITA, but it's a quarter mile from were I live. Pretty much all my accounts are within a mile except one. And they want Magic Salt shellacking at the wiff of inclement weather. Normally you'd salt 18-25 times in this area during a normal season, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if I'm in between 30-40 on this particular one, and each app I'll throw 3/4 ton down.. $$$$$
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2012
  15. BigBoyPlowin

    BigBoyPlowin Senior Member
    Messages: 301

    We have 3 Accounts in a sub division that My buddy built.. The houses are on the Multi Million Dollar Scale im sure so of course their driveways have Marble/ granite Borders like your customer does... The guy requested that we hand shovel the One side of the driveway where the curb is.

    Before i go on, Let me just say if he wasn't on an All inclusive Customer and didn't pay in full at the beginning of the year i would of dropped him!

    Anyway... We Stake the the sides Even though its 4-5" Back from the actual driveway. And Shovel.

    All i can say is if you have to do something extra make sure you get paid for it!
     
  16. gwhalen3

    gwhalen3 Member
    Messages: 99

    My goodness fellas. Just use duct tape!...They re only markers:drinkup::laughing:
     
  17. M.McDaniel

    M.McDaniel Member
    Messages: 49

    Stake the site as you would any other site. Place a notation into your route sheet telling all drivers to stay back four feet from the stakes.
     
  18. shovelracer

    shovelracer Senior Member
    Messages: 525

    Long term solution is to have pool cover anchors professionally installed and then custom up your stakes with the threaded bottom. In the spring the stakes come out and the hole plugs go in. Cleaner than just drilling holes.
     
  19. Dogplow Dodge

    Dogplow Dodge 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
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  20. BigBoyPlowin

    BigBoyPlowin Senior Member
    Messages: 301

    Actually now that i think about it Gorilla tape your poly stakes to the curb... I wouldnt be scared to do that