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snow bear back up winch

Discussion in 'Snowbear Plows' started by bradman0087, Sep 30, 2010.

  1. bradman0087

    bradman0087 Member
    Messages: 54

    I am wondering can i use a cheaper winch from like harbor freight as a back up if needed to in a pinch instead of waiting to get one from superwinch in case of a break down this winter?
  2. ranger88den

    ranger88den Senior Member
    Messages: 104

    Last edited: Oct 1, 2010
  3. ranger88den

    ranger88den Senior Member
    Messages: 104

    My HF retrofit

    Harbor Freight 3000# remote control winch retrofit (see photos):
    Remove the winch hook from the cable.
    Remove fairlead bracket and rotate 90*.
    Measure 2 ¼” to hole centerline from the edge opposite the fairlead.
    From the fairlead adjacent edge, measure 2”, 5 1/16”, and 6 3/8” to hole centerlines.
    Drill the 2” and 6 3/8” holes large enough to accommodate the 3/8” diameter Snowbear winch mounting bolts.
    Drill the intermediate hole large enough to accept the Harbor Freight flathead screw (removed from fairlead bracket) then countersink the backside of this hole (reuse flathead screw).
    The winch mounting hole that doesn’t use the the flathead screw will have to be enlarged to accept the 3/8” diameter Snowbear mounting bolt.

    NOTE: In the dimension drawing the bracket is rotated 180*. Please double check all dimensions and check against your Snowbear mount spacing and your winch mount hole spacing.

    see next post for more photos

    winch model.JPG

    Bracket removed from winch.JPG

    Bracket rotated 90 degrees.JPG

    Bracket hole dimensions.JPG

    One screw countersunk.JPG
  4. ranger88den

    ranger88den Senior Member
    Messages: 104

    Hope this helps.

    u-bolt connection.JPG

    winch mounted.JPG

    Plow lifted by HF winch.JPG
  5. ranger88den

    ranger88den Senior Member
    Messages: 104

    Wiring connectors

    If you need to replace the Snowbear wiring quick connects, these trailer connectors work in a pinch. 10 ga & 12 ga shown. I purchased the 10 ga online and the 12 ga at an RV dealer.

    Trailer connectors.jpg
  6. 1PapaDock4

    1PapaDock4 Member
    Messages: 32

    thats the winch that I bought... any issues with it?
  7. ranger88den

    ranger88den Senior Member
    Messages: 104

    No issues. I bought it as a back up, so other than setting it up, and checking operation, it hasn't been used for any duration. Time will tell. I did buy the warranty.
  8. 1PapaDock4

    1PapaDock4 Member
    Messages: 32

    I'm a little indifferent about the cable.. I kind of want to take the chain that was off a malfunctioning superwinch. Decisions decisions..
  9. tar1827

    tar1827 Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    Thank You!

    Thanks ranger88den for the excellent posts regarding your mods to the HF winch. My 9 yr old snow bear winch quit on my during a snow storm last month. I got a sweet deal at an HF store for this same winch ($49.99 after coupon) and after following your instructions, I had it installed and running quickly. The delay was annoying, but I liked no longer having the big wire and switch controls from the original.

    Unfortunately, for the next several weeks, the winch would not work consistently. My initial thought was water in the control box, but even when dry it was flaky--sometimes not responding to the remote. I finally got so frustrated that I removed the control box altogether and I attached the power leads directly to the winch motor. I put the old controls back in the loop and, presto, everything worked great...consistently and with no delay.

    I am truly thankful to have found this thread and just want to pass along my appreciation and my experience for others. If you use this mod and the delay irritates you, or the controls don't always respond, dump the control box and remote. ;)
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2011
  10. ranger88den

    ranger88den Senior Member
    Messages: 104

    You're welcome. Good tip regarding remote control bypass.
  11. 1PapaDock4

    1PapaDock4 Member
    Messages: 32

    just bought the CE 3000lb wireless winch the other day to see it would run faster than my CE 2000lb winch...
    Unfortunately it hardly moved the plow up and down.. Very irritating.. I removed the control box and used my original wiring used with the 2000lb winch *same size wires* and it barely moved.. Maybe I found a dud.
  12. tar1827

    tar1827 Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    Well, I burned up the motor on this HF winch, I guess. They gave me a free replacement, but it's a pain swapping everything that I modified from the burned up one to the new one--HF people were really helpful about that, though, which was nice. I really think that I hosed it by having too much slack with the cable when dropping the blade and then binding it when lifting the blade. I'm not sure about that, but it's feasible since the cable was beat up. I really hate having all that cable to move the blade up and down such a short distance. I just don't know how to make a chain go onto this winch. Any ideas?
  13. ranger88den

    ranger88den Senior Member
    Messages: 104

  14. champlainl

    champlainl Member
    Messages: 65

    I use the 2000 lb hf winch, remove the cable completely, purchase a 3/8 u-bolt, use double nut plates,nylon lock nuts, piece of 3/8 chain and install on drum of winch. tighten u- bolt tight,cut off excesss threads on u-bolt,attach to plow and your good to go,mines beenon for 2 years and I have pushed tons of snow
  15. skidoo

    skidoo Member
    Messages: 32

    Try cutting your cable and only putting a couple feet or so on it. Just feed your cable through and tie knot. Won't bind up that way less chance of breakage. I tried champlainl method with chain and ubolt, never had the sucess that he had with it. The u bolt would slip. Chain tore crap out of spool. I'm using a lt 2000 # superwinch seems to be fairly quick.