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Small Parking Lot Bid

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by AccuCon, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. AccuCon

    AccuCon Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 440

    Hi

    This is my first commercial lot and I am looking for a sanity check on my price...

    about 16,000sf w/ small walk that needs to be shoveled and salted...

    I'm saying $150 for 1-3" with walk

    +$75 for additional push (3-6")
    +$125 for additional push (6-12")
    $45 for walk salted only
    +$100 if they want the lot salted when plowed
    $135 salt lot only

    The lower building isnt occupied so the lower walk and lot are out

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    I figure it would take me 45mins to clear w/ walk shoveled and salted

    Im thinking it would take 320lbs of salt for the lot on average

    Thoughts?

    Thanks
     
  2. quigleysiding

    quigleysiding PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,097

    Sounds good. Thumbs Up I don't know what the going rates are in your area though........
     
  3. AccuCon

    AccuCon Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 440

    Thanks for your response!

    It's the "Valley" for example gas is about $.40 a gallon more than surrounding areas so things in general are a tad more expensive...
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2013
  4. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    You must have a higher living stranded there .To me that's about 75-80 bucks each time with shoveling.
     
  5. underESTIMATED

    underESTIMATED Senior Member
    Messages: 188

    Im with Grandview.

    $75/plow/shovel

    $75/salt
     
  6. 86 CJ

    86 CJ Senior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 285

    Around here I use to do long driveways for no less than $100. When I price a Commercial Company's lot that would be the min I drop the blade for. I think that NOTHING compared to a $$$ lawsuit for 1 person to fall and break a leg. It looks like a fairly easy lot to push. I like your price and would be between $100-$125/push plus $25 for little sidewalk. I think your price is dead on if it were in MD.
     
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2013
  7. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    Yep I'm there to 30min job with my setup

    To the OP what size of a plow you are using
     
  8. GSS LLC

    GSS LLC Senior Member
    Messages: 639

    i say 80. 123456789
     
  9. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    That is a $150 per push lot if you are plowing everything outlined in Orange. You guys doing it for less are just plain crazy.

    I'd price that @ $150 with a trigger set at the owners liking. I'd want $150 each time I pushed, no matter if it were one time or 5 times a storm.
    The little walk would be $40 every time.

    I personally am out there to make a profit, not just pay the overhead and be able to buy lunch.
    Profit to me means pay all the bills, make a decent paycheck, AND put money away for retirement and reinvestment into the business.
     
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2013
  10. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Good for you if your getting that. But if the market is not paying it, you'll be standing there and holding something and it's not your plow controller
     
  11. GSS LLC

    GSS LLC Senior Member
    Messages: 639

    quoted for truth
     
  12. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Your market is saturated with snow removal technicians I guess.

    But gas, insurance, trucks, plows...food, mortgages...taxes...these things cost the same everywhere...I don't see how you guys can live on earnings like that..$80 plowed and shoveled and walk sanded?
     
  13. Snow Commandor

    Snow Commandor Senior Member
    from 07666
    Messages: 439

    I'm with Grandview. If this were in NJ I wouldn't drop my blade for less than $150 per push.
     
  14. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Grandview is @ $80 plowed, shoveled and walk sanded.

    I am the greedy one @ $150 + $40..payup
     
  15. MSsnowplowing

    MSsnowplowing Senior Member
    Messages: 709


    These would be my rough est. numbers for the area you have in yellow including the sidewalk covered by the trees.

    2-3 $125 plow only, with salting $175
    4-6 $175, $225
    7-8 $250, $300
    every 3 inches add $75
    For a ice storm and 1 inch salting $100
    The Walkways I would charge $50 for every 3 inches and add in another $20 for salting.
    For a ice storm and 1 inch salting of the walks $50

    So a 2-3 inch storm plowing, salting and sidewalks would be $245.00

    Keep in mind my numbers are rough est. based just on your picture.
    Always take a look at the property at night.
    What looks like a easy job during the day takes on a whole new level at night with the parking lot filled with cars.
    Then you have to figure on coming back later to clean the spots filled with cars.

    Hope you get it, have a good weekend.
     
  16. crazyboy

    crazyboy Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 296

    1-4 $175

    $145 for salt lot and walk.
     
  17. john06duramax

    john06duramax Junior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 17

    Yeah anybody under $100 is just plain out of their mind. My prices

    1-3=$115.00
    3-6=$185.00
    6-12=$265.00
    12+= $30/inch

    Sidewalks $35.00 each, plus $10 for treatment
    Salt= $135.00 per app.

    So to the OP your pricing is pretty good. We do about 30 lots this size and these are our rates for pretty much all of them.
     
  18. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    I am puzzled at the different prices for different amounts.

    I thought that's what triggers were for?

    Realistically speaking, no apartment complex should be let go past 3"...it just gets packed and makes a mess later on...

    It's why I said $150 every time I come drop a blade....I suppose if the PM / owner wanted me to wait till 6", then I'd bump it to $180..
     
  19. crazyboy

    crazyboy Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 296

    Not familiar with per event pricing? It doesn't necessarily mean you only go plow once.
     
  20. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Exactly, it's why I would want $150 every time I went there, 1 time per storm, or 4 times per storm. And that is @ a 3" trigger...like I said, if they wanted a 6" trigger, then $180 a push..
    I just think that a different price for different ammounts gets confusing..and your idea of what 4" looks like will always be different than what the PM thinks..