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Small contractors track at SIMA next year

Discussion in 'Snow & Ice Management Association - SIMA' started by szorno, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. szorno

    szorno Senior Member
    Messages: 308

    Folks, most of you know that I am reasonably active in SIMA. I am back on the symposium committee for 2011 going to Schaumberg, IL. One charge that has been leveled at SIMA is that it is focused on the bigger companies $.5M and up. Many of us that are members of SIMA are much smaller but no less committed to the industry. The last 2 years they have done a full track of training sessions on liquids for deicing and anti-icing. I am going to propose that they do a whole track for the smaller business. Here are a few of the topics I personally would like to see presented:
    ** Account sales for small companies focused on small commercial and residential growth (where most small companies cut their teeth and grow)
    **Insurance protection- how much is enough (3 trucks, 1 loader and how much liability?)
    **Subcontracting for dummies- how to hire your best friend and not loose him
    **Niche markets & Equipment for difficult jobs- hard can pay well (when to go to a skid steer, or compact tractor to do a job best)
    ** Route management for best profit

    Now, here is where you all come in. Give me other topics. Most tracks have been 4 related classes. I would like to present 5 or 6 options to the committee in a couple weeks for classes and have some support to back it up. So, if you like anything suggested, write it in this thread. If you have a subject that you would really like to learn about- put it in this thread. If you think SIMa is not worth your time, put it in ANOTHER thread.
    Thanks for your support.
     
  2. Grassman09

    Grassman09 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,806

    How about SIMA coming to Canada and focusing more on Canada and snow operations in Canada. Make SIMA worth my time. Sometimes you need to take the good with the bad. Life is not always positive.
     
  3. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    Since we all start out at diffrent places, maybe some classes on how to fix (out on the fileld so it'll last the rest of the night) and maintain your equipment so it will last fir years I come.
     
  4. IMAGE

    IMAGE Sponsor
    Messages: 1,741

    pm sent................
     
  5. flykelley

    flykelley 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,124

    You have to go to Erie PA for that.:mechanic:
     
  6. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    How about a class for knowing your costs so we might eliminate some of the 9 billion pricing posts on here,lol.
    But seriously a quick class on finding your cost per hour.
    Managing routes on a smaller scale (maybe of 2-4 trucks)
    Some of this stuff might already be offered but I haven't joined yet :blush2: I am this week.
     
  7. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033


    They have build a bid
     
  8. szorno

    szorno Senior Member
    Messages: 308

    OK guys thanks. Keep the ideas coming. Note to non-SIMA members- you can come to the symposium for a flat fee per day. SIMA members do get a discount though. Brian-Welcome !
     
  9. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    Thanks, just joined tonight, for the free coat of course, courtesy of JD Dave,lol
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2010
  10. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    It's more of a sweat shirt than a coat
     
  11. Neige

    Neige Sponsor
    Messages: 2,198

    Great stuff Scott,
    How about know your numbers, you can get 4 related classes for this.
    Mix and match with commercial, industrial, municipal, HOA, and residential.
    Myths about residential.

    Just a few of the top of my head.
     
  12. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    Perfect! now I have a nice sweatshirt to run around the house in along with my tighty whitey's :laughing: J/K of course.
     
  13. szorno

    szorno Senior Member
    Messages: 308

    OK, we're getting some good stuff here. Thanks Brian and Neige. Anyone else gotta thought? What has kept you from trying something new or big? Maybe there is another contractor with some experience. Still need a couple more suggestions.:waving:
     
  14. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    Very true but it's a nice sweat shirt. ;)
     
  15. Rich Arlington

    Rich Arlington Member
    Messages: 76

    I agree we need to have more nuts & bolts for the small contractor. I have been pushing that for years...

    also FYI , Rich Arlington & Associates will be launching a Know Your Numbers & Budgeting Basics seminar for 2011. we will take to three cities in 2011 to test how much response there is... This will answer alot of the questions we have had on here.
     
  16. Neige

    Neige Sponsor
    Messages: 2,198

    Scott how about a track on how to get the most out of SIMA. A brief history, how to navigate the web site. Explain about the learning center ( White papers, Snow Drifts articles, Tip of the month, SIMA savings, download production rates, contracts & forms.
    How to search through previous Symposium presentations. How to go about networking, using your SIMA buddy. Explain webinars, the CSP program, what goplow.com is. There is more but I think you get my drift. Lastly maybe close with how to market being a member of SIMA to your clients.
     
  17. Rich Arlington

    Rich Arlington Member
    Messages: 76

    Neige,
    all of what you asked about is exactly what the SIMA Buddy program was designed to do.... if your SIMA Buddy is not helping you through this please contact the SIMA office and request a new Buddy...
     
  18. Neige

    Neige Sponsor
    Messages: 2,198

    Rich its me Paul Vanderzon LOL. I mention this because most of my buddies never contact me. I send out a welcome email, and only 5% ever respond. Then the feedback we get a year later is that they don't get anything out of SIMA. Just thinking of other ways to reach new members.
     
  19. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985

    The SIMA Buddy program is O.K.......But the main problem with the progam is...My Buddy when i joined several years ago was located in Maine..Im in Michigan.....He can lend some general advice on Snow plowing in general... But he has no clue what the Michigan Market is like and can offer no assistance to me about this market....I think the buddys should try to be matched by state...If that can't happen...SIMA should atleast try to get someone in the region.........JMO....
     
  20. szorno

    szorno Senior Member
    Messages: 308

    OK, some good stuff here. I will present the whole concept to the symposium committee this week.
    Thanks for the input.