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Sidewalk Pay????

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by M & MD Lawn, Dec 18, 2010.

  1. M & MD Lawn

    M & MD Lawn Senior Member
    Messages: 361

    Hello all, I have been on the site for a while but still considered a newbie seeing as I don't plow yet due to me being in college and time not allowing, but i'm home on christmas break and a friend of mine who commonly subs to me (for lawn care and landscaping) has asked me to be his sidewalk sub this year because he knows i'm reliable, I don't mind i want to do it otherwise I would just be sitting in the house not doing anything plus I want the experience with him as when I do start plowing it will be with him as a sub until I get the hang to bid on my own. HOWEVER I'm not sure how to charge him?????, I do have a labor rate per hour but thats for my landscaping mainly and not sure if thats transferable. I don't even know where to start really, I have all my own equipment = two blowers and shovels + my BR600 and truck of course, he is supplying the salt.

    If you guys could give me a ballpark I would greatly appreciate it and yes I have snow removal experience, in my complex so I know how to use a blower and shovel lol:laughing:

    I'm located in Indianapolis, Indiana, I'm due to go take a look at the properties Monday so any help is greatly appreciated!!!:)

    Thanks in Advance,

  2. M & MD Lawn

    M & MD Lawn Senior Member
    Messages: 361

  3. FinerCuts

    FinerCuts Member
    from Iowa
    Messages: 85

    Anywhere from $35-45 and hour. Now he is going to probably want to make money off of you but that is what everyone is getting here.
  4. bristolturf

    bristolturf Senior Member
    Messages: 435

    in my area we usually bid walks at around $39-42/man hour, and were sending them out in 2-3 man crews so charging anywhere from $78-128 crew hour. Usually If I am being subbed I mark up my break even cost around 35%-45% on snow, whereas customers are in the 60-75% markup. So for a sidewalk crew, b/e is $22.00/man hour that means were talking $30-32/man hour. That allows him to still clear a little profit on the job. Are you supplying all the man power, meaning your employees with you, or is it just you?
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2010
  5. snocrete

    snocrete Banned
    Messages: 2,862

    IMO, he should be telling you what he can pay you. I would suggest talking to him about flat rates per property. There are lots of different ways to do it, and not 1 way is best. If you go hourly as a sub (all your tools & equipment other than salt) then I would agree 35 - 45/hr is fair pay....as long as your hustling....because if your not making him money than why would he keep you around.
  6. M & MD Lawn

    M & MD Lawn Senior Member
    Messages: 361

    I will be supplying everything but the salt and Yes I will get done fast as I can because I will have multiple properties I will have to do, I've worked for him before its just been during the summer, I've worked for him he's worked for me. He knows how I work, He's waiting on me to purchase a plow, but I haven't due to reasons listed above.

    So sounds like 35 - 45 a hours is the going rate, I was thinking 30 - 35 myself so I wasn't far off, and yea I do plan to ask him how much he can afford, he knows I won't try to take him and be greedy and as far as flat rate can't they make me limited, or would I give him certain rates, just like when you plow, Per inch(s)?
  7. snocrete

    snocrete Banned
    Messages: 2,862

    yep, but thats something that you and him should discuss to see if it would work. Good luck!
  8. TPC Services

    TPC Services Senior Member
    Messages: 875

    but thats not what we are paying them. I would not make anything on a per push job or seasonal if I paid you the same as I am charging !!