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Shoes not keeping blade off ground?

Discussion in 'Meyer / Diamond Products Discussion' started by valleyviewlawns, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. valleyviewlawns

    valleyviewlawns Member
    from Montana
    Messages: 90

    Is there something I am doing wrong, or do these things get so wore down that they don't keep the blade out of the gravel? I have all the shims/washers at the bottom of the plow so the shoes are as low as they can get. I have some lots and roads that need to have the shoes down, but they aren't working. I have a Meyer Max 8.5' poly plow on a 94 Chevy K2500. The truck is not lifted, but I cranked up the torsion bars for an extra inch of clearance with the plow up, but I wouldn't think that would affect the shoes.
     
  2. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    need pixys Thumbs Up
     
  3. valleyviewlawns

    valleyviewlawns Member
    from Montana
    Messages: 90

    Any particular angles I should shoot from?
     
  4. ScubaSteve728

    ScubaSteve728 Senior Member
    Messages: 477

    low and on the side

    shoes do wear you may need new ones
     
  5. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    so , whats your problem . ground not frozen yet? or are you running on moldboard as a cutting edge ?
     
  6. valleyviewlawns

    valleyviewlawns Member
    from Montana
    Messages: 90

    The ground is frozen but I have a county RID contract and will have to pay for regrading and gravel if I tear up the roads. Just want to be safe, effective and fast. Shoes need to be working properly.
     
  7. valleyviewlawns

    valleyviewlawns Member
    from Montana
    Messages: 90

    Plus one of our storage unit lots is all unpacked road mix on an uneven ground. Would save a lot of time with the shoes on that one. Most have well packed gravel that is even and not mounded up to the doors.
     
  8. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    if you were warned about regrading in the contract , did you price for that accordingly. fuel,equip. manpower + PROFIT . After all ,were here to make a profit ,

    has to be a contract being your plowing municipal, county or state hiway . correct ?

    are you sure your being properly compensated ?

    shoes should be the last thing on your mind
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2012
  9. valleyviewlawns

    valleyviewlawns Member
    from Montana
    Messages: 90

    Was doing bank owned property maintenance, told them to take a hike after prices went down, started lawn and property care on HOA's, residential, commercial, government contracts, and am plowing in the winter to stay busy and keep customers happy. We bill out at $70-$80/hour which is the going rate here. Most calls come from people disgusted with the old timers that stretch themselves too thin and can't keep up with the work. Quality work, dependable service, and a customer oriented attitude does wonders around here for the growth of our business. This last contract came from one of the old timers over-billing. Complacency creates opportunities.
     
  10. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    back to the shoes ... if you damage road grade , do you have the resources and are you capable of repairing the roads?
     
  11. valleyviewlawns

    valleyviewlawns Member
    from Montana
    Messages: 90

    Yes. That is what reserve funds and friends with graders are for. I have plenty of plow experience to keep from tearing things up but I just want to set the plow down on the shoes and go. They are nice roads, just want to keep them that way.
     
  12. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    in other words , your money . thought so . these friends with these graders . what would they charge an hour ? what type/size of stone or modified would these friends be regrading ?
    How many ton you figure to pull original grade ? what are we talking here maybe a less than 7% ? Im sure there would be a loader and tri-axles included in this small project. loading and hauling windrowed milling isnt easy..
     
  13. theholycow

    theholycow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,180

    Sounds like shoes were working well for you before and you're just trying to get back to that condition. Is that a correct assessment? If so, I don't see why you shouldn't fix your shoes and enjoy what has always worked for your situation.
     
  14. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    sounds like he not only lost his shoes ,he may be losing his shirt along with them .
     
  15. White Gardens

    White Gardens 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,665

  16. valleyviewlawns

    valleyviewlawns Member
    from Montana
    Messages: 90

    Sounds like "Spool It Up" needs to find a woman so he can stay on topic. At no point in this thread did I say I had won the lottery and now own a road construction business. Stay focused, or find another thread to hi-jack.
     
  17. valleyviewlawns

    valleyviewlawns Member
    from Montana
    Messages: 90

    This is a new plow to us so I don't know if it has ever worked. I will get some pictures posted.
     
  18. mnglocker

    mnglocker Senior Member
    Messages: 923

    Look at what White Gardens posted. The pipe over the cutting edge may be the trick until you get a good hard packed base.
     
  19. White Gardens

    White Gardens 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,665

    If you are doing a lot of miles and want to use the pipe, then I'd suggest finding the strongest steel pipe you can find. Not sure if the standard pipe would hold up very long.



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  20. theholycow

    theholycow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,180

    In that case, it might be worth considering the pipe alternative as suggested by a few others above. There are numerous good threads with photos, instructions, and tips. Search the site for gravel guard or yard guard.