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Seasonal contract example or outline

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by cold_and_tired, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. cold_and_tired

    cold_and_tired PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,246

    One of my longtime clients wants to switch to seasonal pricing this year. I have my prices figured out but was wondering if anyone had a seasonal contract that i could look at to get some wording. This is my first seasonal and the contract I'm writing now is starting to ramble.

    Thanks
     
  2. asps4u

    asps4u Senior Member
    Messages: 543

    I know SIMA has them on their website that you can download
     
  3. cold_and_tired

    cold_and_tired PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,246

    Only if you're a member, which I'm not.
     
  4. Grn Mtn

    Grn Mtn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,644

    when doing seasonal for commercial always try to get the 3 year deal, this way if its a bad season for you, at least you know you'll have them for two more years, one less job to try to bid.

    what points are you rambling on?

    when writing my contracts I try to think of how a customer might take advantage of me, or what I've been burned on in the past, figure how mother nature could really f with me, then write down things that would either prevent or protect me in those circumstances.

    also, seasonal tends to be bid high, its like insurance, you pay but may not need it, but you got it. or if your a gambler, you can pay as you go, its cheaper, but it might never end:D
     
  5. cold_and_tired

    cold_and_tired PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,246

    I have my other hourly contracts set up for three years at a time. Being that this is my first seasonal, I want to try it out for a year to see how it works out for everyone. I would hate to sign them for three years only to find out that I'm gonna get the shaft every year.

    I finally got my rambling narrowed down. I know just about everything that needs to go into a contract but I was just having a hard time getting things in the right order and using the right words.
     
  6. Bmsnow

    Bmsnow Member
    Messages: 32

  7. Martinson9

    Martinson9 Senior Member
    Messages: 205

    Nice looking, simple contract. Does anyone balk at number 5 or 6, and if so, what do you do/say?
     
  8. Martinson9

    Martinson9 Senior Member
    Messages: 205

    Your contract should basically be the same. The only thing you are changing is how they pay for the services.
     
  9. Bmsnow

    Bmsnow Member
    Messages: 32


    Nope i never had anyone have a problem except for Private roads so ill pull that out for those roads....... as for the per plow clause no one really has a problem with that either but thats based off my quote..... Im a blower based business so that kinda needs to be in their ........

    If someone were ever to ask a bout it i usually tell them that it s protection for not only my equipment but all the clients that are after that driveway, that pretty much settles it. but like i said the only people that has discouraged is commercial lots, so i have a second contract for those areas.
     
  10. kyle1845

    kyle1845 Junior Member
    from NH
    Messages: 4

    contract

    would you be willing to share your contract used for commercial lots?
     
  11. Mick76

    Mick76 2000 Club Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 2,157

    People for the few hundred dollars to have a lawyer draw up a contract for YOUR company's best interest is well worth every penny!.... remember you get what you pay for... its going to be too late when someone slips and falls and you forgot a comma in your contract, making it null and void.......

    think about it.....
     
  12. MoSnow

    MoSnow Junior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 1

    Mick, I agree you should have a lawyer review and complete your contract, however Lawyers don't typically understand the details and liabilities of the snow removal business.
    So I think they are asking for verbage samples to make sure they have thought of everything associated with pushing snow. A lawyer might not think of such things.
    Also, in my neck of the woods and in this economy, Property Managers are wanting you to sign their contracts which are way more lenient toward themselves.

    We were sued once from a lady who fell at a strip mall. We use a professional weather reporting service, which states conditions daily for the month she fell. We had a contract where the client signed to have us salt only when they called.Bottom line, our contract covered our butts.

    The conditions the night the lady fell? 58 degrees was the high that day. No measurable snow the previous 3 weeks. No rain to re-freeze wither. She fell at 2am on St Patricks day coming out of a bar. Hmmmmmmmmm.

    But you know what? All our contractual evidence meant nothing because our insurance company settled with the woman. WHY? because they said it would cost more to go to court and prove we were right. CRAZY!!!