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sample contract and pricing upstate ny

Discussion in 'Business Fundamentals' started by Dnipro Max, Sep 2, 2004.

  1. Dnipro Max

    Dnipro Max Member
    Messages: 60

    Hello, guys i'm new to this bussiness and wounder if any one could showed me their contract for sample, because i'm making my own but need to look whats out there, and also some pricing what people charge out here in Upstate NY, im from Rochester NY, thanks
    Vitaly
     
  2. Dnipro Max

    Dnipro Max Member
    Messages: 60

    Any body? Help!
     
  3. gpin

    gpin Senior Member
    Messages: 390

    We don't work by contract due to legal issues. All we offer is snow removal by the hour, the client pays for what they get. No gaurantees, no trigger depths. Keep it short and simple. This is year 24 and the business keeps growing because of quality work and reliability. We plow approximately every 3-4 inches. Lowers the wear on equipment and keeps the lots clear. $125 per hr, 1/2 hr minimum. Multiple lots for the same owner eliminates the minimum. When I started my clients were skeptical. My pitch was: if you're not happy, don't pay. Every year the 1 truck newcomers pick up a lot or 2 from me, 90% of them fail the client, I get the business back along with new referals every year.
     
  4. Dnipro Max

    Dnipro Max Member
    Messages: 60

    Thanks gpin, do u use same rate for comercial and residental?
    Vitaly
     
  5. gpin

    gpin Senior Member
    Messages: 390

    Residential is a headache. I do some for free, such as the owners of the office complexs, the building managers and other clients as I feel that the goodwill is worth more than the money. I also do my accountant, my daycare person and my attorney, again for goodwill not cash. I used do some driveways where I live, but there was always a car in the way and getting paid was a sometimes difficult or not worth it.. I think residential is best left to landscapers who have a year round relationship with the client. I would charge more for residential than commercial.
     
  6. qualitylawncare

    qualitylawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 501

    I don't know where you are in Rochester. I'm in Scottsville, but plow Scottsville to Farmington within 5 miles of Rt. 251..

    I've noticed alot of the work in Scottsville and immediate areas is lowballed to a huge extreme. My dads neighbors driveway is being done for $8.00 and its a 30x60 driveway.. My minimum is $18.00 for a 25x50.. No lower.. Doing moms, dads, the grandparents, and a few other close relatives for free.. I have a $31,000 truck, $5,000 plow, and $1,400 spreader... Don't work for free!

    Around here you will be lucky to clear $80-100 hr for residential if there isn't much travel time.
     
  7. JRSlawn

    JRSlawn Senior Member
    Messages: 346

    Steve,
    Les see some pics of the truck and plow? Sounds like an awsometruck. Do you got any good pics of your lawn mowing rigsup to date?

    Jeff Smith
    JRS Lawn & Landscape
     
  8. qualitylawncare

    qualitylawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 501

    See if this works.. I don't have the plow yet, getting it mounted in late September (if it ever comes in)..


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  9. qualitylawncare

    qualitylawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 501

    here's the biggest mowing rig behind the 98' F-150.. Pic is about 2 months old.. Have added two Greentouch BP blower racks for Kawasaki KRB 400B blowers, and new stihl FS85 Extreme trimmers to replace the Echo garbage..

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  10. qualitylawncare

    qualitylawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 501

    And here is one more of the new truck!

    2004 Ford F-350 4x4 w/ FX4 off road package
    reg cab
    5.4ltr V-8 Auto
    3.73 limited slip
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  11. Dnipro Max

    Dnipro Max Member
    Messages: 60

    Steve,
    I'm in Hilton, but i'll would greece and irondequit and some others around here, not to far away, i'm trying to start may be with residental and move to commercial, since i'm just starting out this my first year, defenetly not for free, cause just spent $31k for truck this year and the plow $4k just now, but what do u say on your contract? since u from here, where do u advertize here? nice truck
    thanks
    vitaly
     
  12. qualitylawncare

    qualitylawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 501

    DNI,

    I advertise with flyers, direct mail, GV Penny Saver, and word-of-mouth referrals..
     
  13. Dnipro Max

    Dnipro Max Member
    Messages: 60

    Steve,
    We will be making some flyers this year to start, and whats a general stuff u write on contracts
    thanks
     
  14. Dnipro Max

    Dnipro Max Member
    Messages: 60

    Steve
    how do u do it with direct mail
     
  15. qualitylawncare

    qualitylawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 501

    DNI,

    I select areas I like to work in from my mowing route. Target the streets where my mowing customers live, and write down house numbers..

    I have seen huge lists out there but that really doesn't help you target your area..
     
  16. JRSlawn

    JRSlawn Senior Member
    Messages: 346

    looks great steve
     
  17. Dnipro Max

    Dnipro Max Member
    Messages: 60

    We starting to bring flyers door to door where we work and around are neighberhood, but i got this flyer in mail that they will do unlimited snowplowing trips for $159, thats crazy how can u make money like this, or advertize with these offers, u can make your web site a live on your signature by puting {url} in front of it and {/url} in back of it, just use the squared brackets in place of the pointed ones, and i sended u email
     
  18. Dnipro Max

    Dnipro Max Member
    Messages: 60

    Hey Steve,
    got my email?
    let me know thanks
     
  19. Grn Mtn

    Grn Mtn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,644

    Hey Vitaly...

    I plow Greece and Irondequoit, Last year I also did a 1/2 mile drive past Spencerport as a on call. Living in Hilton I can assure you don't try to do Irondequoit. Its too far from your base and the snow patterns are completely different. I live near Stone Rd and Lake ave and I'll have 3" but my Greece accounts near North might have 2" (not enough for trigger) and my North Irondequoit will have 4-5" but my South Irondequoit past Empire will be 2-3". Got to love lake effect. So in my rambling's what I'm saying is try to stick closer to home, North Greece around Latta has big homes and easy drives.
    I'm by no means an expert like Mick, but I'll be happy to share ideas with you.
     
  20. wls

    wls Senior Member
    Messages: 319

    Nice Lesco, I have 3 cub tanks, and a mtd 36", also a ford 250 P/S