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salting with 1 ton dump

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by optimax, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. optimax

    optimax Junior Member
    Messages: 15

    Can a 1 ton dump handle 3-4 tons of salt?
  2. LoneCowboy

    LoneCowboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,760

  3. millsaps118

    millsaps118 Senior Member
    Messages: 691

    Sure it can. You wouldn't want to be driving around with that much weight all the time but it can handel it.
  4. mws399LAWN

    mws399LAWN Member
    Messages: 44

    Make sure you got E load tires
  5. clark lawn

    clark lawn PlowSite.com Addict
    from NE ohio
    Messages: 1,233

    as long as your dumping it out through out the night and not driving all over town with it you will be fine. i just had 3.5 ton of 57 limestone in mine and it handled it fine. i typically have 2.5-3 ton of salt in my vbox at the start of the route.
  6. Brad3403

    Brad3403 Senior Member
    from Alberta
    Messages: 391

    Does a bear sh!t in the forest?
  7. LoneCowboy

    LoneCowboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,760

    a 1 ton dump typcially has a GVW from 9900 lbs to about 13,000lbs
    the truck alone empty usually weighs 7000+ lbs. (easily). Add a 1000lb salter and a 1000lb plow and you're right there at 9000lbs or more.

    Let's just say empty with no plow and that gives you a capacity of about 2500lbs (1 ton) to about 6,000lbs (max)

    And that's only with a particular newer Ford F350 to get that 13,000GVW, most 1 tons (3500's) are much less and most are 9900lbs GVW.

    At most that's 3 tons and most 1 tons will do about ONE TON.

    will the frame handle it? certainly.
    will the brakes, tires, the driver? probably not.

    have an accident and guess who's at fault? Mr Overweight commercial vehicle.

    Be smart, use the right equipment for the job.
  8. cold_and_tired

    cold_and_tired PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,246

    I agree with Brian 100%. The truck will probably handle it but you should always go off of the GVWR.
  9. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    1 tons are pretty much useless in my book. By the time you load a couple yards of dirt, gravel, a couple tons of salt they're over loaded. My next dump is def. going to be a long the lines of F650 or C4500-5500. 3-4 tons is really pushing it, especially in bad weather (usually) I wouldn't take the chance. Ours holds a 550 gallon liquid tank and when full its 6600lbs which is only 2.5ish yards of salt and it squats a bit but we dont have the added weight of a spreader. I would say 3 yards MAX.
  10. Team_Arctic

    Team_Arctic Senior Member
    Messages: 176

    I have a 2010 3500 chev.. 8600 empty weight. gvwr of about 13000 we load up to 17000 on shorter hauls with out any problems ... add snow to the situation.. to keep it rubber side down keep it light. 12-13000 max
  11. millsaps118

    millsaps118 Senior Member
    Messages: 691

    I have a F350 dump. I've loaded it a few times with class 5 and 1.5" river rock and GV'ed my truck at 15K(what it's plated for), maybe a tad more and it handled fine.

    Yeah you have to get on the brakes a little earlier and drive smarter but in no way was I ever concerned about it being unsafe.

    I think 1T or 1.5T over GVWR once in a while isn't anything to be worried about just as long as you don't make it a habit.
  12. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,192

    I have a 2007 GMC 3500 with D/A and a 8' rugby box. I hit the scales at 9200 empty. Plow is 800 and salter is 800. You can do the math.

    I have a 1999 Chev 3500HD. The GVWR is 15,000 and we have a 4 yard hydraulic salter frame mounted and no plow. We fill it up but it is pushing the limits.

    We also have a W5500, C6500 and T7500. They all make great salt trucks.
  13. Grn Mtn

    Grn Mtn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,644

    our f350's pull the chippers and deliver the pusher boxes, the f550's and f750's do the salting.
  14. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    You should open a used GM dealership.
  15. adksnowo

    adksnowo Senior Member
    Messages: 370

    That much weight is unsafe on a sunny, dry day w/ no traffic. Add crummy weather, fatigued drivers and maybe a slight mechanical issue and you are driving a disaster. Another issue is if you get scaled out by D.O.T. commercial vehicle enforcement, they'll have a field day with you.