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Salting question...

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by RyansServices, Nov 1, 2009.

  1. RyansServices

    RyansServices Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    How much ground does a 50lb bag of rock salt cover when doing walks? Also, how regularly do customers want residential driveways and private drives salted?pumpkin:
     
  2. I'llPLOWYou

    I'llPLOWYou Member
    Messages: 62

    First of all, NEVER use rock salt on sidewalks or driveways. It will cause the concrete to crack, chip and split. You need to buy Magnesium or Calcium chloride. This will cost more but you will not have the problems that rock salt will create. Generally though rock salt will cover 6-12lbs per 1000sq.ft. This varys based on conditions.
     
  3. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    Oh really?

    How come these magic substances you speak of don't harm concrete?
     
  4. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    This could be entertaining.....
     
  5. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    To bad Mark isn't here. :realmad:
     
  6. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    Generous.....
     
  7. I'llPLOWYou

    I'llPLOWYou Member
    Messages: 62

    The problem with using salt(sodium chloride) on walkways/driveways is in the refreeze that occurs. Because it is only effective to approx. 20 degrees when the temperature goes below this it causes the brine that was created to refreeze. This is what causes lasting damage to the surface. It causes the concrete to crack or bust the top off. The calcium/mag chloride products have a lower freezing point(generally around -5 to -30 degrees depending on actual product) and this problem does not occur. However, your premium products, when not applied correctly can cause damage. You might wanna try to educate yourself a little on ice melters. Its not magic how any of the products work it just takes a little training, education and knowledge. This is what seperates the Professionals from the cretebaby!
    2COR, what did you mean by generous?
     
  8. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    That's why you check your accounts and rte-apply salt if necessarry.
    That is what the REAL plow guys do.
    Not even gonna start anything about someone running around with 3000lbs of crap in the bed of a 1/2 ton....:dizzy:
     
  9. I'llPLOWYou

    I'llPLOWYou Member
    Messages: 62

    Do you know that salt does NOT have any reaction after approx. 20 degrees? It does not matter if you put down 5 lbs or 5 tons, there is no reaction that will occur.
    My 1/2 ton is just fine thank you! Obviously it can handle the load.
    True PROFESSIONALS give their customers products that will actually work with the conditions. Sounds like you are just stealing money!
     
  10. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    Run someone/something over with that grossly overloaded 1/2 ton and watch the lawyers have a field day.
     
  11. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    Wouldn't a "professional" realize that calcium chloride is a salt. :rolleyes:

    Trust me half ton boy, sodium chloride works below 20*.
     
  12. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    Maybe that is what "I'llPLOWYou" means. :confused:
     
  13. wizardsr

    wizardsr PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,557

    Maybe the sodium chloride they use in Kentucky is different than what the professionals in real winter climates use... :sleeping:
     
  14. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    So calcium chloride and magnesium chloride are salts? Maybe I should get that on my fries at the fair next time:laughing:
     
  15. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    You should try it, it is very tasty and much tastier at a lower tempature. :rolleyes:
     
  16. gkp

    gkp Member
    Messages: 42

    My brine never freezes? my lots are all dry and evaporated within several hours of a storm ending?
     
  17. terrapro

    terrapro PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,879

    :eek: Yeah CRETEbaby you need some training and knowledge from this guy! :D

    To the original poster I have never had a res customer want salt on their drive.
     
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2009
  18. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    That's odd....I guess i've seen the impossible happen over and over.....and over...............again.

    Year after year..............after year. :p
     
  19. I'llPLOWYou

    I'llPLOWYou Member
    Messages: 62

    The problem with this industry is too many guys like you all who do not know the difference in salt, mag, calcium, etc. You think salt is salt and everything is salt. No one will ever convince you of anything different. You are the ones putting product down that may or may not be effective and don't know the difference. If you really want to learn about salt call any of the following places and ask them about it, Morton's, Cargill, and United Salt. It is on there bags that the product is not effective below 20 degrees.
     
  20. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    Don't believe everything you read.