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Saltdogg spreader problem

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by Xforce 1, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. Xforce 1

    Xforce 1 Senior Member
    Messages: 109

    1st and foremost, I have 3 1.5yd bed spreaders and the receiver spreader that has the auger in the bottom and I think they are great aside the receiver spreader.

    1st question, One of my bed spreaders is starting to have auger problems. Our material is dry and the spreader has always worked great until the last 2 bins and we are having a hard time getting the auger to go and that's starting to concern me. All seems fine when empty so what can I look for????

    2nd question, the receiver spreader is my nemisis...., in saying that, I bought this bran new as well as my bed spreaders and it works fine empty but you fill it up with salt and will spread for 3 seconds or so and throws a "f" code and it's done this since day 1. I called my dealer and he told me to send the controller back and when he got it, he would check it and if need be send me a new one. I told him that I could not be "down" the time it would take to do that and asked if he could send me a new one and hold my credit card info if I didn't send the old one back and he refused so I called Saltdogg themselves and got excellent service. The said it was my controller and they would send one out immediatly and to throw my other one away. That's service!! BUT....I still have the same problem. I didn't use it last year cause of some account changes but this year I need it again and it's still doing the same thing. Obviously it's out of warranty so any ideas?

    Thanks for any help!
     
  2. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 583

    I can only say I love my SPHE 2000. Could be the auger bearing. I would switch controllers from another truck and see if you still have the same problem. I only say that because I've read about how bad the SD controllers can be.
     
  3. jdilliplane1

    jdilliplane1 Senior Member
    Messages: 110

    when this happened to me it ended up being my wiring had a short. I honestly wiggled the wiring harness and it starts working again. Same thing two years in a row so go figure. I would try running power from a 12 volt battery directly to the auger and see if it runs right. Thats how I found mine was in the wiring.
     
  4. scottL

    scottL PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,603

    Their number one issue was the controller. It is a simple circuit board but they had quality issues with them shorting in the box and with some of their relays. It's not uncommon to go through a few before finding a good one.

    Second problem .... Have you lubed the bearings???? Probably never. If the unit spins quietly with no load then this is probably not the problem.

    Third problem is electrical load on a worn out motor. Very rare.

    Fourth problem and also most common .... How 'open' do you have your gates inside the hopper? If they are too open and your salt is too fine it is very common that the vibration of driving will settle the salt and cause too much pressure on the auger for the motor to spin. Then you have to get out and manually work it loose. Sometimes with a shovel.
     
  5. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    All good advice. Buyers says The F code means

    Wire harness positive wire short to
    truck's body/ frame. Motor internal
    fuse (40 AMP) blown.

    They say the solution is

    Find and eliminate short circuit.
    Replace fuse.

    So check your harness for a short. Disconnect both ends and run an ohm test on the harness. Careful attaching the harness to a battery. If the controller is right you could smoke the harness pretty good. Though 12 volts to the motor and make sure the motor itself isn't cooked.

    As for the SHPE;

    Remember the SHPE spreaders have wrench flats on the auger at the rear to use to free stuck augers.

    Run an amp draw test on the auger motor.

    we stock a #3022215 remote grease kit that makes greasing the front bearing while the spreader is in the truck a breeze.
     
  6. toyotaboy

    toyotaboy Member
    from DE
    Messages: 40

    hi basher my tgs07 gave me the F code they replaced the controller n with this recent snow we had in delaware i put the spreader on worked fine and now it shows a H code are F&H related because they say H replace motor or short i think kinda new at using the spreader only my 2nd year with it
     
  7. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

  8. SnoDaddy

    SnoDaddy Senior Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 138

    if auger wont work motor is prob toast. everytime one of mine does it they say some b.s. code and its always motor
     
  9. scottL

    scottL PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,603

    You probably are overloading the weight onto the auger. Adjust your gates inside and it will run better and last longer.

    I've had several of these salters putting years of use and tons ( and tons and tons and tons ) of salt through them and still no motor issue.
     
  10. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 583

    Love when someone asked for help, gets the help he asks for, and doesnt come back to the thread. No one wants thanked, but it would be nice to know what the issue was.

    Basher, what are those grease kits going for?
     
  11. bugthug

    bugthug Senior Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 268

    Problem is I should have kept it.
     
  12. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    I think they retail for around $40, everybody has their own price.

    They have a nice heavy rubber hose but can be a pain to install depending on how your end bearing sits. if the fitting faces down then it's a breeze, flip the hopper over, pull the fitting, screw in the hose, install a self tapper to hold the clamp and tighten the zerk onto the hose.

    If the bearing faces up you either have to find a angle fitting or pull the bottom trough and rotate the bearing 180 degrees.

    Make sure its clear of the fork slots.
     
  13. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 583

    Best move you ever made was selling that to me. :)
     
  14. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 583

    I can grease mine from the side while on the truck. Should be easy to install the hose.
     
  15. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    Soooo--the question begs---was Buyers being cheap or smart making it extremely difficult to grease the bearing,especially when the hopper is inside a pickup box? My money is on the former.;)
     
  16. Xforce 1

    Xforce 1 Senior Member
    Messages: 109

    Sorry I haven't been back, computer crashed and had to get a new one but couldn't remember my dang password. Thanks for the info, here's where I stand.
    I closed the gates inside down a little bit and think I may need to do more. I can drive anywhere, turn the auger on and spread and I turn the vibrator on and keep spreading. I then turn the vibrator off then the auger and when I start the auger back up, I have to turn it on and off to get it going again. This only does it after I run the vibrator so I think I may shut the doors down some more. As for the receiver spreader, We've traced the wires, no short and still have the problem, if I only load half full, it will work......:mechanic:
     
  17. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    There has ALWAYS been a 5-10 second lag on my auger after I spin it down to 0 and then resume salting by cranking it up.Annoying, but I've learned to live with it.If you run a voltmeter or multimeter on your wiring past the connections in the rear,I bet you will find poor voltage.You should change those connectors as noted.
     
  18. Xforce 1

    Xforce 1 Senior Member
    Messages: 109

    I will try that next!!
     
  19. Glenn Lawn Care

    Glenn Lawn Care Senior Member
    Messages: 551

    I had a saltdogg tailgate spreader for a month, found out they are junk! I know some people that have had them and they all said the same thing.
     
  20. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 583

    Xforce, if I have the problem you just described, I always turn the auger up to 9 til it starts to flow, then down to whatever setting I want. Seems to work better that starting it at 4 or 5. And I don't shut the controller of between properties, just turn it down to 0 and vib off.

    I noticed if you get road spray up in the chute and it's really cold, the salt will freeze and clump around the auger. Don't think there is a solution for that.