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salt shortage in MI, here we go again

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by M & D LAWN, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. M & D LAWN

    M & D LAWN Senior Member
    Messages: 164

    Called suppliers today for salt, either they don't have any, don't know when they will
    get any or are charging $170.00 per ton. Can't anybody do anything about this insanity.
    It makes me want to quit doing snow removal. bty, don't think changing over to liquid
    will be any cheaper, their starting to charge over $2.25 per gallon.
     
  2. flykelley

    flykelley 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,124

    Well if someone is paying over .50 cents a gallon they had better find a new supplier, lots of them in Michigan are 50 cents and under. Better yet buy some storage tanks and you can get Well Brine around 25 cents a gallon. There is no salt in waterford so Im switching to Liquid.

    Regards Mike
     
  3. Runner

    Runner Senior Member
    Messages: 957

    I think that liquid is going to be the way of the future. this year, the mines all said that they are only going to put out so much,...and that is exactly what they did. Next year will be the same. as far as salt goes,...it has come down to HAVING to know your projections of use, and purchasing ahead of time. I don't see a shortage ever coming up of liquid. I DO see a price increase, as more people go that direction and the demand goes up, though.
     
  4. M & D LAWN

    M & D LAWN Senior Member
    Messages: 164

    I don't know about liquid, there's a contractor that uses it next to one of our lots, it takes forever to
    melt anything, he had to subcontract another guy to come in and throw salt. This stuff is supposed to
    work better than salt at lower temp's? This morning his lot was still completely white and he put down
    2 apps last night. We just put down salt and our lot were at least getting slushy.
     
  5. jkrak

    jkrak Junior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 26

    This salt situation is really pissin me off! Price triples and everything has to be up front. Need to take out a line of credit just to pay for it! Then if Im not pushin snow Im chasin money. We are the ones doing all the work and getting the shaft. I really wish we could do something about it. Need some Ideas. :gunsfiring:
     
  6. Eronningen

    Eronningen Senior Member
    Messages: 442

    I agree. The salt game is a joke.
     
  7. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,039

    Liquid is the way to go. PM me if you have questions
     
  8. snow_man_48045

    snow_man_48045 Senior Member
    Messages: 324

    Seems to be as bad as the oil/gas in this world. Opportunists kind of sums it up...payuppayup
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2009
  9. Runner

    Runner Senior Member
    Messages: 957

    I don't think it's as much a salt "shortage", as it is people prepping us (filling our heads with doom and gloom) for price gouging. We are talking to way too many others who have plenty of salt, and most of whom are reasonably priced.
     
  10. kimber

    kimber Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 140

    I have salt in Ohio...if you want to have it trucked...probably will be landed for around $135/ton.

    If you want to avoid this next year, talk to me after the season ends and get a group together and I'll ship you a boatload...it will be foreign salt...however I know you'll be able to save huge dollars. Just in case your wondering..it would be about a 20,000 ton load...sounds like a lot..but when this shortage happens again next season, they will be calling you for salt...
     
  11. Salisbury1975

    Salisbury1975 Junior Member
    from Detroit
    Messages: 26

    M&D, call don at wilkinson corp. in lapeer mi, he has mineral brine for under .50 a gallon if you can take 2500 or so per delivery. I know a ton of guys are using it. We use salt brine/liquid mag and have cut our salt usage by atleast 60% and saved a ton of money.
     
  12. Bonk Brothers

    Bonk Brothers Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    Bonk Brothers have salt pick up in toledo for 140 or Howell for 150. Call thim 517 548 1543.
     
  13. flykelley

    flykelley 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,124

    M Tec in Waterford has salt $170 a ton, glad I went to liquid.

    Regards Mike
     
  14. kipcom

    kipcom Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 455

    PLenty of salt in our area...I dont get the shortage in your area other than wholesalers are stating they dont have in order to get prices to go up. As a matter of fact some of it comes from northern michigan.
     
  15. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,039

    wow real $$$$$$
     
  16. Runner

    Runner Senior Member
    Messages: 957

  17. AndyTblc

    AndyTblc Senior Member
    Messages: 681

    Ask MDOT where they are getting all their salt, because they lay salt down like they need to get rid of it really fast