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Salt Brine?

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by Landmark1, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. Landmark1

    Landmark1 Member
    Messages: 58

    Ive been doing alot of reading on salt brine, and most of what I have read is that it is used as a pre wetting agent. Is there anyone using just salt brine as a deicer after plowing your lots? And if so how well does it work?
     
  2. Kubota 8540

    Kubota 8540 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,952

    I did when I started but didn't like all the results I got when the surface temps went down to 15-17 F, so I added in 10% by volume liquid calcium chloride. That's all I spray now down to a surface temp of 5F.
     
  3. Landmark1

    Landmark1 Member
    Messages: 58

    How much snow and or ice can you melt?
     
  4. Kubota 8540

    Kubota 8540 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,952

    I usually don't try to melt more than an inch. If there is a chance to plow I will plow 1+
     
  5. Kickin Grass

    Kickin Grass Member
    Messages: 39

    Are you talking about salt brine that these guys are making or well brine? There is a big difference. Well brine works allot better then the brine that you make and its cheaper.
     
  6. Kubota 8540

    Kubota 8540 PlowSite.com Addict
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    How much does the well brine cost, that you speak of ?
     
  7. Kickin Grass

    Kickin Grass Member
    Messages: 39

    The cost is cheap. I can get it from .21 cents to .40 cents delivered depending on how much I buy at a time. It's ready to load and I just have to run. I have been using it for over five years now. I cannot store rock at my place. DEQ will not give me a permit and the storage requirements are stiff. Were the brine is stored in tanks and nobody says anything about it.
     
  8. ChlorideGuy

    ChlorideGuy Member
    Messages: 77

    uh.. humm.. (cough) (cough) lol
     
  9. ChlorideGuy

    ChlorideGuy Member
    Messages: 77

    1 810 395 8600
    1 8773 4 brine
     
  10. Kubota 8540

    Kubota 8540 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,952

    At .21-.40 per gallon is a good price. Unfortunately here in Illinois it cost more than that per gallon, actually at least .20 more per gallon due to trucking cost. I have tried well brine and I personally have no problem with it. Currently it is mixed into my salt brine at 10% per volume. I have sprayed it straight @ approx 60 gallons per acre, but my customers didn't like how their lots remained damp for days. Nature of the beast I guess, seeing how it is hygroscopic. It sure works great when extreme cold weather strikes. I also have sprayed and mixed liquidow with my salt brine with results the same as well brine did. For me whether I use a well brine or liquidow liquid calcium chloride comes down to price, quantity needed, and availability. By mixing calcium chloride with my salt brine I tend to get the best results of both applications. Making my own mix, my cost are under .20 per gallon all the time.
     
  11. Kickin Grass

    Kickin Grass Member
    Messages: 39

    My customers like it. It does not track in the building like salt does. I do not have to much problems with the lots being damp. I use it because of the cost. It's way cheaper then salt. The only problem with it is when you have freezing rain. Then I have to use rock. Rock cost $95.00 per ton, then add tax and it's at $107.00. I see your point in making your own.