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Run ATF in your plows?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Flawless440, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Flawless440

    Flawless440 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,543

    Just curious on some opinions on running ATF in the newer style plows?
    I always ran it in my Meyers but I have got rid of my Meyers and replaced them with another a new boss and Western. ATF is convenient at 3am in the heat of the battle.

    Thanks for the feed back...
     
  2. Italiano67

    Italiano67 Senior Member
    Messages: 640

    I never have in my Boss plows. Why not just have a couple of the real fluid quarts in each truck? You probably could gey away with ATF but then in order to run the good stuff you have to make sure you totally drain the system.
     
  3. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    I run atf in my plows. Ital is right though, either or, not both combined. You MAY find that your blade is a bit slower when REALLY cold with ATF though.
     
  4. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    From what I hear BOSS plows do not like ATF, to many additives, takes out seals. Just use the right stuff, cheap compared to the plow. Only holds 2 QTs or so. It is just MIL Spec Aircraft Hydraulic fluid.
     
  5. Flawless440

    Flawless440 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,543

    Dealer installs the plows with the blue fluid, not even the boss fluid.. I thought that was weird
     
  6. jbell36

    jbell36 Senior Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 221

    yeah, i was told by our hiniker dealer to not use ATF...i wouldn't risk it...i found out our fluid is blue also at the end of the last storm when the line busted...

    we use boss fluid for our boss's
     
  7. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    I really wish an actual engineer would give a finite answer on this. I dont necessarily trust the dealers because they are just salesmen in the end. My (fisher) plows have run fine on ATF. There is also several knock off brands of the "blue". Who's to say its not ATF colored differently? Food for thought..
     
  8. goel

    goel PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,079

    I use ATF in all. Meyer, boss, arctic. Only if it gets colder than he'll freezing over is it questionable. But we also add a little alcohol to keep it from freezing. Never had a problem. Meyer we tear down and new seals every year. Never touched the boss or arctic in the past 5 years other than to drain and flush.
     
  9. Flawless440

    Flawless440 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,543

    Great Intel guys...

    Never herd of adding alcohol... Rubbing alcohol??
     
  10. mulcahy mowing

    mulcahy mowing Senior Member
    Messages: 718

    Why cheap out over some hydro fluid? Why not just follow manufacturers specs?
     
  11. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    Convenience. Not being forced to use a product that is twice as expensive because it happens to be a "blue". Sure i'll change if someone can show me irrefutable evidence to the contrary, till then I'll stick with ATF....
     
  12. goel

    goel PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,079

    Methanol, also known as methyl alcohol, wood alcohol.

    Same stuff used in windshield washer fluid. If you are experiencing extreme cold you can add a little extra to your ww fluid and then it won't refreeze on your windshield.
     
  13. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    Any Mil Spec 5606 Oil.
    Airplane landing gear oil
    Airplane brake fluid
     
  14. ponyboy

    ponyboy Senior Member
    Messages: 957

    My local dealer who I bought my last plow from uses SAMS fluid in all new plows says it the same as western fluid
    I noticed my 08 plows western fluid was red and my 11 plow was blue that cam directly from DeJana on LI N.Y now last bottle of western was blue not red any more. I have switched to SAMS fluid last year and have not had any problems during an emergency I mixed regular ATF finished up the storm and no issues mixingb. Next day I flushed and refilled with all SAMS as long as there is no water mixed in I doubt it will freeze or give you any problems
     
  15. thelettuceman

    thelettuceman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,216

    Not rubbing alcohol .... the stuff that's in my cup holder !!!!!:sleeping:
     
  16. lawnboy2121

    lawnboy2121 Senior Member
    Messages: 467

    I had less problems with ATF in my plows then the blue stuff. The filter in the pump on my v used to gel up with the blue oil .i went with ATF like all my others and have not had a problem for over 4 years
     
  17. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    Here are some Questions for you all,
    Any one ever have any problems with BOSS oil?
    ATF? If ATF what kind?
    The Blue stuff?
    How about straight weight 10w oil Non detergent?
     
  18. Italiano67

    Italiano67 Senior Member
    Messages: 640

    No problems with Boss oil.
     
  19. oneoldsap

    oneoldsap Senior Member
    Messages: 188

    Any winter service Hydraulic fluid will work just fine . I have used Hy-Tran forever !
     
  20. sargex595

    sargex595 Member
    Messages: 33

    When I went to buy fluid from my Fisher dealer they told me just to buy the red ATF fluid so that is what I did. All my plows have had ATF in them and I never had a problem and never noticed any difference even with -0 temps and below.

    Curt.