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Rookie Owner/Experienced Driver

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by Sinista365, Nov 15, 2014.

  1. Sinista365

    Sinista365 Junior Member
    Messages: 4

    So this is my 1st season on my own. Ive been pushing white since I was 18;). I have 6 years experience in the art of snow removal. Im having a hard time determining a fair price seasonal contract bid. its a 1.5 acre lot sidewalks/salt Im from Milwaukee WI, 2'in trigger. also one entrance is connected with the mal entrance.. idk if that changes $$


    ford 150 6ft curtis
  2. JustJeff

    JustJeff PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,940

    It's snowing out now, and you don't have a contract with them yet? Isn't your truck wider than your plow?
  3. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,838

    6'? If thats correct I"d say you'd look like a fool IMO out there doing a commercial lot.
  4. Longae29

    Longae29 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,954

    My house is almost famous! Only got part of my street on the left there.

    If you want it go super super super cheap, and then knock a couple bucks off.
  5. Sinista365

    Sinista365 Junior Member
    Messages: 4

    sorry I mean 7ft 8inch curtis plow
  6. jimbo64

    jimbo64 Senior Member
    Messages: 194

    I didn't realize anyone made a plow 7' 8".
  7. Sinista365

    Sinista365 Junior Member
    Messages: 4

    7ft plow. Lol don't patronize me.
  8. JustJeff

    JustJeff PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,940

    You went from a 6' to a 7'-8" to a 7'.
  9. Sinista365

    Sinista365 Junior Member
    Messages: 4

    It's a 7ft 6inch curtis plow but I measured it and it was 7ft 8inch, but I just want to know how much I should charge for a 1.5 acre lot and sidewalk
  10. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 7,921

    How wide and long is the sidewalk.

    any salt?
    where do you get to stack the snow?
    when do they want you to remove the snow, when the lot fills up with snow and their loosing parking spots?
    were are you going to put it, when you do haul it away?

    how are you going to remove it from site?

    if your just going to drive around the restaurant a few times and call it good.
    just do it in trade for hamburgers...

    soo much more to know before you bid.

    on a serious note how much does it cost you to run your truck an HR plowing snow?
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2014
  11. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 7,921

    What I charge or mark o. Or grandview will all be different.

    What are your costs of doing business for a hr?

    Untill you know that # we have no idea what you need to charge to make money

    We also need to know the scope of work your going to perform
    From plowing to salting to hauling snow away

    And how your going to perform said work,
    Salter or feeding the chickens.
    Shovel or snowblower

    A loader and dump to haul it away, and to wear at what cost to you for this service or do you up charge the customer when it happens. You will still need to know the cost beforehand .
    How much snow does the site get on avg.

    How are you going to deal with packed snow from all of the cars packing it down?
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2014
  12. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 6,771

    If it's Red Robin it's not a 1.5 parking lot, you need to subtract size of the building.

    In your 1st post you were asking for help, members ask valid questions others honed in on your plow size. Now you just want to know how much to charge.
    The sooner you understand how to bid and what to look for the better off you're going to be. Questions have been asked to better understand what the scope of the work is and what's expected from the customer perspective. Depending on what the scope of service is the cost will vary quite a bit. I'd suggest you answer question's, listen, learn and not just go for a quick answer.
  13. duramaxmeyer

    duramaxmeyer Junior Member
    from 11971
    Messages: 6

    big lot to do with that small of a truck... no???
  14. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,838

    Rule #1: KNOW YOUR COSTS!!!
    Rule #2: KNOW YOUR LIMITS, (1acre lot with 1/2 ton is your limit I'd say)
    Rule #3: KNOW YOUR CUSTOMERS EXPECTAIONS(ei:scope of work)
    Rule #4: KNOW YOUR WEATHER(average for year, average for storms)
    Rule #5: HAVE A BACK UP PLAN!
    there are more but those rules are a start for you. GOOD LUCK!
  15. Chineau

    Chineau Senior Member
    Messages: 446

    Let if the O.P comes back today, are these type of places open twenty four hours? Gas stations, 24 hour restaurants anything where you have to wait around for some one to get out of the way, I would be reluctant to bid seasonal fixed price.
    Six years experience in the art of snow removal should equal six years in the art of business of snow removal.
  16. JAJA

    JAJA Member
    Messages: 73

    I know that place...I think you are going to be in over your head...get a bunch of driveways and move up from there more equipment, friends with the equipment that want to work etc
  17. KTLawnCo

    KTLawnCo Member
    from VA
    Messages: 88

    ^^Exactly what he said
  18. F250/XLS

    F250/XLS Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 142

    Just a little hint Check bylaw for piling snow on lot corners suronded by high flow trafic streets You may have only 48 hrs to remove ...... Looking at your view You Will need to haul it out ... That alone if not considered and checked with thé city could kill You $$ wise