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Pusher vs. V-plow

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by KBTConst, Jan 2, 2011.

  1. KBTConst

    KBTConst Senior Member
    Messages: 426

    I have a small lot I do with the pickup with 9' 2" Boss normal 3" snowfall takes about 30-40 minutes use the loader with 14' pusher it takes about 15-20 minutes my question is would you guys charge more when using the pusher or just keep it the same for both? I get $85 for the lot. Thanks, Jerry
     
  2. alternative

    alternative PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,164

    Why not just use the loader and make your $85 in 20min vs using the vplow and taking 40min to make 85?
    I dont understand why you would charge more... youre making more if you use the loader..
     
  3. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    I'm sure the customer would love to pay you more to do the job in less time.
     
  4. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    What about travel time? Does the overall job including travel time take the same SS vs Vee or does the time required to move the SS negate the time saving for the actual removal?
     
  5. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    You agreed to the price....you can't charge him more. :laughing:

    A 14' pusher cannot nip & tuck and do the detail work.

    The big question is why would you use a loader on a site that only takes 30-40 minutes to plow with a truck???
     
  6. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    Alot of companies around here have alot of small places very close and they run loaders and tractors. A 14ft is a little big to fit in the odd entrance but if it'a an angle pusher with hydro endplates or a Snowing it will fit pretty much everywhere. It's not uncommon for companies around here to have 10+ tractors and loaders and only have a couple pickups and they only do smaller places. Sorry for the off topic, The price is the price no matter what you plow it with.
     
  7. KBTConst

    KBTConst Senior Member
    Messages: 426

    Sorry guys I guess I should have stated why I was asking the question! Some other excavating guys and myself was talking shop and 2 of them thinks I should charge more for the loader because cost of equipment, cost of fuel, and I pay a worker to run it. Myself I don't agree with them because of the time it takes to do it!
    I do use the loader if it is done with the bigger job that it is on.
    I wouldn't't even think about trying to get more out of someone after I agreed to a price! There is no nip & tucking to do its all straight forward shots and the loader is driving right by the job site so why not swing in and do it with the loader . I only use the tuck when the loader is running behind and it is getting ready to open. Hopefully this cleared things up alittle. And before anyone says why are you talking prices with other people they are good friend and they don't do snow. Thanks Jerry
     
  8. Cromer_22

    Cromer_22 Junior Member
    Messages: 24

    Seems to me you just answered your own question! tymusic
     
  9. KBTConst

    KBTConst Senior Member
    Messages: 426

    I allways knew what my answer was just was wondering how everyone else thought it should be.
     
  10. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    You are already getting more money for the loader.

    With the truck you can do 2 an hour $85 X 2 = $170 hour.

    With the loader you can do 4 an hour $85 X 4 = $340 hour.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2011
  11. KBTConst

    KBTConst Senior Member
    Messages: 426

    Thats what I tried to tell them maybe I should write it down for them like you just did Thumbs Up
     
  12. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985


    You Know CDLs.....You Know how Mulch Salt Eats....and Now Math...Its an Honor to

    Know You.....:salute:
     
  13. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    You are too mulch. :laughing:
     
  14. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    That doesnt work for some people.

    For some people you have to inscribe it on the end of a bat in a reverse font then whack them across their forehead with it. When they wake up they'll understand the concept.
     
  15. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    I'm going to drop that money off that I owe you now that I know how your collection policy works. LOL
     
  16. FisherVMan

    FisherVMan Senior Member
    Messages: 706

    I like Johnny R's concept ............... that one works good around here as well. And is sometimes the ONLY way ..............
     
  17. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    I've been needing a new quote for the sig line.

    Thanks Johnny!

    My wife wants to know what I've been laughing about for five minutes
     
  18. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    Just so I have my head wrapped around this correctly........u charge $85 for 15 min of work and they think u should charge more? Ask those guys what their hourly on their loaders is.
     
  19. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    Just telling it like it is bro. You're welcome.
     
  20. KBTConst

    KBTConst Senior Member
    Messages: 426

    Yes your head is wrapped around this correctly! I just told them that I like to be able to sleep at night.