1. Welcome to PlowSite. Notice a fresh look and new features? It’s now easier to share photos and videos, find popular topics fast, and enjoy expanded user profiles. If you have any questions, click HELP at the top or bottom of any page, or send an email to help@plowsite.com. We welcome your feedback.

    Dismiss Notice

pricing?

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by CNYScapes, Nov 30, 2005.

  1. CNYScapes

    CNYScapes Senior Member
    Messages: 136

    OK How much to salt this lot- wide open 405 'X 850'=344,250 sq ft


    and while youre at it How Much to plow it?
     
  2. NEPSJay

    NEPSJay Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    its more complicated than that. how much are you buying salt for? how long is it gonna take you? how much profit do you need to make? you have to sit down and crunch your numbers. my numbers and someone elses numbers are different from yours.... just my $.02
     
  3. little pat

    little pat Member
    Messages: 83

    The lot is about 8 acres so it would take about 3200 lbs of salt during ideal conditions. You have to figure how much you will charge to spread it. Remember, this amount is for idea conditions, when it gets below about 20 you have to spread more salt to get the same results. As far as plowing, at 4 inches of snow it should take around 8 truck hours. Price accordingly.
     
  4. CNYScapes

    CNYScapes Senior Member
    Messages: 136

    So is 400lbs per acre about what it takes to de-ice or is it 400-600 lbs? I buy my salt for about $50 per ton delivered to my shop.
     
  5. go plow

    go plow Senior Member
    Messages: 322

    please dont think that im putting you down, but if you do this for a living you should know what you need to charge!!!!! if i said that i would charge $50.00 to plow that lot, would you charge that too????? you need to figure what it will cost you to plow it/ sand it/ what you need to get per hour to cover you end. and bam theres you price!!!!! once again im not putting you down, i too have these questions , but unless we are in you area or see what needs to be done, its hard to give a price....
     
  6. little pat

    little pat Member
    Messages: 83

    I put down about 400 lbs per acre after I plow for anti-icing. This will melt any leftover snow and keep it from refreezing. If the temps are very low, say under 20, you may have to use more. As far as de-icing, thats something else. If you are salting after an ice storm or freezing rain you will have to use substantially more, remember it has to melt through all the ice and keep it from refreezing. The amount you will need to use will depend on temperature and how much ice you have.
     
  7. CNYScapes

    CNYScapes Senior Member
    Messages: 136

    I know what to charge on smaller lots (1-1.5 acre), I just wanted to see if I could make more per hour, " you know hit a home run" with the bigger lots. Im Just thinking if I am to get a loader and try some bigger stuff, I want to charge properly.
     
  8. Gusco

    Gusco Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    Maybe he is just starting out and is learning. I dont think he is asking what we charge and will go with that in absolute. I think he needs an "idea" of how much. Remember when you were first learning proposals and what to charge!

    Myself. I look at the job and decide what it will cost me do do it right and then add my estimated time. I take the current rate of salt, sand, mix, and go from there. Dont forget overhead like fuel, insurance, maintnence, etc.
     
  9. go plow

    go plow Senior Member
    Messages: 322

    as my reply stated i wasnt trying to put him down, and i do agree with what you have to say, also as i stated in my reply, he needs to figure out his costs... and what he needs to get for his time..........
     
  10. CNYScapes

    CNYScapes Senior Member
    Messages: 136

    I have been plowing for 10 yrs and have 5 trucks. The reason for starting this thread is because I wanted to know if it is worth doing bigger lots with payloaders. I already am making about $125-$150 per hour with my pickup trucks. If I was to go through the hassle of purchasing / leasing a loader to plow big lots than I think I would have to at least make $250-$300 per hour or more to make it worth it.