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Pricing for shoveling, blowing, icemelt

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by ironman55, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. ironman55

    ironman55 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I manage a building in Denver Co. with about 13,000 sq ft of driveway, sidewalks, patios.
    I do the snow work. I am 60 and am trying to convince the hoa president to get me a decent snowblower. I figure I will stay at this job for the next 10 yrs so I am trying to look forward as to my abilities then. The driveway is about 3000 of that 13,000 ft.

    I am open to suggestions on blowers, brand names, models,hps, widths etc...
    I also would like to know a price per sq ft so I can put a value to the work that I do here.

    Any help would be appreciated!

    Thanks, Joe
  2. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Don't you have any type of budget to work with? If so,go get one.
  3. ironman55

    ironman55 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I do the snow removal as part of my salary. I am just trying to put a figure to the area and the job that I do.
    Last Friday I spent 10 hours trying to keep up with the snow. the snowblower broke down after a rock got jambed and busted the differential.

    I have to replace the machine. The building is a HOA and I need aproval to replace and I dont want to buy some piece of junk (The one they had was a MTD entry level:yow!: piece of, well you know)
    I am trying to put a value so I can justify a good piece of equipment.
    Thanks, Joe wesportwesport
  4. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    If your paid by the hour you could tell them a better machine will cut down on labor cost. And the added fact people will have their walk way cleaned out faster.
  5. ironman55

    ironman55 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    So there is no majic number per sq ft on a project like this. I am not paid by the hour, I am salary. But at 10 hours to remove snow the way they did 50 yrs ago and I wont be here (Remember I am 60) for long.
    Thanks, I appreciate your time.
  6. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609


    Snow Blower Toro CCR 2000 20”

    Snow Depth Square Feet Cleared per hour

    2” 5,000 sq ft

    4” 3,000 sq ft

    6” 2,000 sq ft


    50 # Bag will cover an average of 750 sq ft

    50 # bag requires 15 minutes of labor for handling and application
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2012
  7. ironman55

    ironman55 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    again thanks but I am trying to put a price per sq ft.
    I have 13,000 and the other day it had snowed about 8" and in some areas I had deeper snow due to the drifting. I spent 10 hours, some with a blower and some with a shovel (After the blower broke down.)
  8. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    You need to piece those together yourself.

    labor+ salt+ sb cost=total divided by sqft= per sqft price
  9. ironman55

    ironman55 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Sorry, I am a little slow today. So your taking the per hour cost lets say of 6" snow of 2000 ft per hour which in my case would be 6.5 hoursX lets say 20 per hr= 130 and since it was 8" I would add another 2.5 hrs for the differenceX20=50 so a total of 180 for the day
    This is a labor only scenario as the company provides the materials

    Does this make sense
    I guess what I was after is what someone would charge if I got a bid from them to ouitsource the work. That way I could show them that they have a good deal with me doing the work and they chould not balk at getting me a decent machine.
  10. White Gardens

    White Gardens 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,665

    Then I would call about three different companies and get not only a seasonal estimate but a per-push estimate. Including cost of each salt application.

    This way you can compare apples to apples.

  11. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    That too.Thumbs Up
  12. ironman55

    ironman55 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Having been a contractor for over 30 yrs I hate to waste someones time to come here when I am not looking to hire someone, I am just after a ballpark figure.
    I appreciate you guys and thanks for the help.
  13. siteworkplus

    siteworkplus Senior Member
    from mass
    Messages: 514

    If I were them, I would get you anything you asked for. No way is anyone going to get it done cheaper than you. Ask for the moon and let them tell you what they can afford. Hell you're sixty you deserve the best and probably some help too. God love ya man i'm a little over fifty and just the thought of spending 10 hours doing manual snow removal makes my back ache. Ironman55....well deserved moniker...keep on trucking
  14. DodgeBlizzard

    DodgeBlizzard Senior Member
    Messages: 526

    Having been a contractor for 30 years, you know you have been called to do estimates on jobs that you never were going to get. There's no shame in calling guys for prices. You were doing it. Your snowblower broke and you're 60 and tired of doing it. Get per push prices and seasonal prices. Use that and compare how long it takes you. Now you have everything that you need. Let us know how it works out.
  15. ironman55

    ironman55 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Thanks! :mechanic:
  16. Golfpro21

    Golfpro21 Member
    Messages: 84

    we run two tractors with inverted blowers, our routes take us approx 7 hours, your vague calulation of $180 for a 10 hour event is way too cheap, your giving your time away, demand a raise