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Pricing a large distribution center

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by ReddensLawnCare, Oct 24, 2014.

  1. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare Member
    Messages: 30

    I need some advice. I have very little experience plowing, and what I do have is with a skid. I am workin on picking up the contract for a distribution center outside of charlotte,nc. The area Is 1,800' long and 400' wide on either side of the building. There are long rows of parking next to the curb with minimal obstructions along the way. The site is essentially an rectangle building in a larger rectangle lot.
    On the two long sides, are loading bays for trucks. Around 100 bays per side. With a concrete pad extending 75' from building.

    I current have a ram 2500 with a fisher straight 7.5 and tgs06 salter. There is no stacking room so a skid will be onsite to dump snow over wall down to a creek.

    With my limited experience and current equipment, how long should I expect something like this to take. Please be gentle. I'm a plowing Virgin that has just messed around a little
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2014
  2. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare Member
    Messages: 30

    I'm going to have to check my numbers. I just did some math and there is no way that is right.
     
  3. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    It will melt by the time you get to the end.
     
  4. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare Member
    Messages: 30

    Thank you. I have missed your comments on lawnsite
     
  5. PrecisionS&I

    PrecisionS&I Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 73

    Is this for real?
     
  6. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,163

    33 acres will be taxing for a dodge...but you should be ok cause its got a 7.5 blade on it.
     
  7. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Yes.it's a real lot.
     
  8. PLOWTRUCK

    PLOWTRUCK Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    Does it even snow in Charlotte? Looking at your numbers that 36 acres. If you did get any amount of snow you will need way more equipment than you have. 3-4 loaders minimum with pushers.
     
  9. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare Member
    Messages: 30

    Ok. Here is the corrected numbers on the lot. I just left the site. I knew the others were off but was going by what was provided. The the long sides are 750x180 and the short ends are 420x45. Sorry for the earlier post. All areas are wide open and it is zero tolerance for 65' out from building on the long sides. I would post a google earth pic but it is still under construction
     
  10. Citytow

    Citytow Senior Member
    from phila
    Messages: 548

    just an idea. sub it, have 3 guys bid on it , take the middle bidder , wallah.
    thats how ferrandino started
     
  11. PLOWTRUCK

    PLOWTRUCK Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    A little more reasonable but still need at least a loader or 2 with pushers.
     
  12. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare Member
    Messages: 30

    I have a buddy in the industry that has roughly the same set up as me and will be able to work the job as well. I have to be able to offer plowing in order to do the maintenance. There are not many options around here when it comes to subs BC it doesn't snow often and when it does it is usually the heavy wet stuff that will melt on its own within 24 hours. Would you advise that I pass with my limited experience. Thanks
     
  13. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,588

    If you do attempt this the only way you should do it is a seasonal contract. If you priced it per push with the little bit of snow falls you get it might not even cover the cost of your equipment.
     
  14. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare Member
    Messages: 30

    Prices are high dine here and nobody does seasonal contracts for snow. For a .75 acre lot we get 675 to plow under 4" and 500 to salt. I think that's good money but I don't know all the costs associated with plowing yet. Everything last year was with a skid
     
  15. Citytow

    Citytow Senior Member
    from phila
    Messages: 548

    high dine ? so is the cost.of.living.
     
  16. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,588

    $675. for a 3/4 acre lot.
     
  17. John_DeereGreen

    John_DeereGreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,886

    I know, I'm drooling too. But they probably get 10 inches of snow a year at most, compared to 40 plus that most of us get.
     
  18. blizzardsnow

    blizzardsnow Member
    Messages: 83

    You should check out SIMA production rates. They are pretty accurate. It will help you understand how long things take. Also that price for a 3/4 acre lot just made my head explode. I find it difficult to believe that's normal even in your low snowfall area. Better check around for more rates than one guy.
     
  19. 94gt331

    94gt331 Senior Member
    from usa
    Messages: 293

    I didnt think it snowed in NC. I probaly wouldn't investin the snow game down there, I'd be too frustrated sitting all winter praying for a snow fall. But good luck to you.
     
  20. ReddensLawnCare

    ReddensLawnCare Member
    Messages: 30

    It was the other guy mentioned above and myself that serviced the properties last year. It is a national company with local owner/operators. They told us how much they would pay. I do a lot of salting only and make good money with that, but have picked up 3 medium sized accounts that have to be plowed and salted. the rule with all of my commercial maintenance accounts is when a weather advisory is issued, we salt sidewalks for insurance purposes. If it is a winter storm warning or ice storm warning we salt lots. I thought the 675 was high but they set the price. I also checked and was actually right at 44k sf including sidewalks