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price for pile removal

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by snow tender, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. snow tender

    snow tender Senior Member
    Messages: 134

    I have to remove some snow from a couple commercial sites and would like to know what a fair price range would be. There are areas at each site to pile the snow so no trucking will be required. Backhoe or wheel loader is what I am thinking. I will have to rent or contract it out. Just wanted to know what the going rate per hr should be, and a fair makeup range. Should have never sold the backhoe!!!!!!!
  2. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,034

    Relocating snow is usually billed out at the hourly rate for the machine your using.
  3. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    Make sure to make enough money to cover rental plus your time.
  4. PTSolutions

    PTSolutions PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,533

    you guys dont charge, say per truck load? never had to remove snow, but would like to know for future reference.
  5. augerandblade

    augerandblade PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,054

    tymusichourly c harge on the loader and hourly on the truck
  6. mullis56

    mullis56 Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 824

    Hourly is the way to do it. Doing it now or I'm not but some of the guys are.
  7. blowerman

    blowerman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,261

    Hourly, but with a minimum charge.
  8. ford550

    ford550 Senior Member
    Messages: 407

    We charge hourly if the service is necessary. All our contracts already have it in there, so there are no suprises.
  9. creativedesigns

    creativedesigns PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,929

    Example in Ottawa :

    Tri-axle truck ( without pup ) $ 90/hr
    Backhoe loader .................. $ 78/hr
    Snow Dump fee................... $ 40/ tri-axle load

    Now if you don't own any of that equipment, factor in your mark-up percentage! :waving:
  10. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    Im glad I dont work in Ottawa.

    Backhoe Loader 120
    3 Yd Loader-150-180
    Disposal Fees-75-100

    All with 8 hour minimums, including travel both ways.
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2009
  11. Snowaway

    Snowaway Senior Member
    Messages: 248

    I have a condo complex I have to do that for. I charge them hourly for labor + the rental and diesel cost.
  12. A Man

    A Man Senior Member
    Messages: 337

    Wow, I'm not that far from you and I don't think to many guys are getting 8 hour minimums around here, but I could be wrong. We can only seem to get 4 hour minimums. Just so I understand, if you sent 6 TriAxle's and a loader to a site and to took 4 hours to complete including drive time you'd bill 48 triaxle hours and 8 Loader hours + dump fees? Now that's good business:drinkup:

    Our hourly rates here are the same but fortunatly we have our own dump site within 10km of our furthest site. We still charge 40 a load to dump.
  13. C Landscaping

    C Landscaping Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    $300 per hour loader
  14. snow tender

    snow tender Senior Member
    Messages: 134

    Thanks for the info. I was sure it would be charged by the hour but was not sure of the going rate. Would be nice to get it all moved before the snow on tuesday.
  15. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    I'm did away with 4 hour mins 5 years ago-try calling trucks in for 4 hours during a busy winter and you'll see why. To answer your question-yes, but I wouldnt send 6 trucks. Id bring in 3 or 4. My real money isnt in the trucking-its in the loader work.
  16. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,034

    The prices shoiuld be the same if you own yor equipment or not, why would you make less if you own all your own stuff?
  17. riverwalkland

    riverwalkland Senior Member
    Messages: 401

    he probably meant that when you only do an hour of work you can't charge 80 bucks an hour for that one hour when the rental cost you 200 alone I'm guessing

    I didn't realize disposal fees were so high. I just dump snow at my house. Are they so high because the snow has dirt and salt in it?
  18. blowerman

    blowerman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,261

    Ditto... I never could figure out why guys think the customer should get charged a rental fee, a fuel charge, plus the operator. How about know what it cost to provide the service and charge accordingly.

    So give me your opinion on this one JD Dave.
    If a guy shows up with a 6-7 yard single axle and medium sized skidloader to move snow and I show up with a Decent sized loader (L70 volvo) and quad axle (20 + yards) to move snow should my rates be in the range of 4X as much as the little guy?
    In some situations I have to compete with the smaller guy and all I'm thinking is " hey guys, just take the LS170 and 1 ton dump" then I'd really make money.
    In the past two years I've had customers share the prices other companies gave them to move snow and what they needed to do the job..whoa, none of these jobs required more than 1 hour with the L70 I had last year..
    But anyhow, setting a price for service is all about "what the market will bare."
  19. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,034

    That's not what he meant. He meant that if he hires everything in, he should get a percentage on top of it for organizing it. Which is fine but why woyldn't I get that percentage if I own all my own stuff?

    Blowerman, sometimes your better off giving a client a price on the job instead of going hourly.
  20. blowerman

    blowerman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,261

    Dave, in most cases that is what I do.. This year with the blower, I had a few places that we showed up to move (blow) the snow away, and in all of about 30 min. or less the lots were cleaned and squared corner to corner. These are all places that I can do while passing through town, so not out of the way. Base fee is $250.00 Does this seem Cheap? To charge more as people watch us come and go in under 30 min. would be tough.. That's why some days I should just send out a skiddy.