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Price Check

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by lino9408, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. lino9408

    lino9408 Member
    Messages: 47

    Just getting a second opinion on what you guys would charge to plow and salt this lot. I've had it for several years and now someone decided to give the owner a second snow/salt quote and i think he is low balling. Parking lot is about an acre and im in Northwest suburbs. Plowing and salting parking lot only, no walks. Snow can be placed almost anywhere.

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  2. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,854

    I'd say around $250 plow & salt
     
  3. lino9408

    lino9408 Member
    Messages: 47

    What would be the individual price?
     
  4. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    If it were here, I would want $180 a push and $100 + materials to sand, each hopper full is $100 and materials BTW.
    That's a good sized lot, and I see 3 loading docks that need to be backdragged? Be there a good hour and 20
    minutes, right?
     
  5. lino9408

    lino9408 Member
    Messages: 47

    That sounds about right. The other guy was charging $70 per push up to 10" and $140 after that. Then $20 to salt the ENTIRE parking lot. Up too how many inches would you plow for $180?
     
  6. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    All my work is per push, not by incriments. So, whatever trigger they wanted up to say, 4.5 inches. If they wanted me to come after that, then I would up it to $210. More snow is more time. Pricing in incriments I find to be ********. Set a trigger, and I will be there. I make "x" per push. The lower the trigger, the lower I will charge up to a point. Only because the customer is not made of money, and I will make my money on volume most storms..so, say this lot is mine at $180 a push with a 3" trigger. In a 12" snow event, I will be there 4 times. If they wanted me to come @ a 1" trigger, I would lower my per push to 100. They would hopefully see that as a very fair deal, but I would make 1200 on 12 inches instead of the 720 I would have made at 180 per 3" trigger. But on that lot, 100 a push is the lowest I could go..I want to average 100 an hour minimum over the course of a shift. And that is an hour plus job even at an inch.
     
  7. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    And we all know that 20 won't buy enough salt and sand mix to do a 100' sidewalk. What a lying dirtball. He will hang himself in a quick hurry. Then they will call you up, crying. Then you tell them your price went up 10%.
     
  8. lino9408

    lino9408 Member
    Messages: 47

    Awesome i will look into other pricing options for future customers. And ya i dont think this guy knows what hes doing. Check out his site rycoplowing.com
     
  9. BossPlowMaster

    BossPlowMaster Senior Member
    Messages: 203

    Without having to re-bid this place I would simply give the owner or manager a call. Say "hey I have done this for how many years now, I have looked at his bid and there is simply no way he will get it done for that amount." Explain to him the costs (but not the actual dollar amounts) and explain how long it takes to do each step. Makeing note for anyone else who reads this (caps for attention only)
    :waving:IT IS STATISTICALLY PROVEN THAT THE CONTRACTOR WHO CAN BREAK DOWN THE BILL TO THE CUSTOMER AND EXPLAIN WHY IT COSTS WHAT IT DOES IS 80% MORE LIKELY TO BE CHOSEN BECAUSE THE CUSTOMER CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE THEIR MONEY IS GOING WILL BETTER REASON WITH THAT PRICE THAT YOU HAVE BID THEM. >>>READ THAT IN LAWN AND LANDSCAPE MAGAZINE<<<:waving:
     
  10. lino9408

    lino9408 Member
    Messages: 47

    I am friends with the owner, i will talk to him and see what he is thinking. I was just wondering if i was charging too much, but this guy is def a low baller.
     
  11. BossPlowMaster

    BossPlowMaster Senior Member
    Messages: 203

    I am going to write a short post about industry standards and about customer satisfaction... watch for it in the new posts
     
  12. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    The best person you can screw, Is some one you know.
    Maybe your friend know other guy is way to low. Your friend is trying drive your price down. By using this low bid to get you lower your price down.

    You ever thought about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,255

    2x, for up to 6" per push
     
  14. lino9408

    lino9408 Member
    Messages: 47

    I will keep an eye out
     
  15. Bossman 92

    Bossman 92 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,771

    Same thing happened to me last year. A place we had been servicing for 4 years decided to switch because they found a cheaper price. We were salting the lot for $100 and someone offered to salt it for $30. Well the place looked like ***** last year and you could tell whoever salted it was doing it by hand. About 3/4 of the way thru the season I caught the clown salting the lot. He pulled in the lot with a younger kid (maybe 15) and set up a wheelbarrow in the back of the truck. He then dumps in 2 bags of salt, climbs back into the truck and drives partway thru the lot while the kid in the back throws handfulls of salt down. We sat and watched laughing the whole time.

    Well guess who called the first part of september asking if we could turn in prices for snow this year. When I asked her about last year she said they had to call the guy everythime it snowed then after he would salt they would have to call him back to fix what he didnt salt the first time. She said they had several people slip and fall last year. BTW we resigned them this year with an increase in price.
     
  16. lino9408

    lino9408 Member
    Messages: 47

    Win win for you xysport
     
  17. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    For that price let the low ball buy do it. And Or talk with the owner don't drop your price. I would do that lot for $200 up to 3 inches. In this area I do not know anyone that does it per push.
     
  18. lino9408

    lino9408 Member
    Messages: 47

    Yea i usually do it by increments.
     
  19. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 638

    $20 could salt sand that whole lot

    $7.25 PCY for screened sand in pit

    $9.00 per bag for rock salt

    that's $3.75 profit for the load, granted it will be mixed 100 : 1

    payup :laughing: