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pre-wet units?

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by elite1, Jan 30, 2004.

  1. elite1

    elite1 Senior Member
    Messages: 187

    well, we had a very big week for snow.

    It seemed that no matter how much salt that I took from the vendor, I was always a little short. My old supplier had treated salt, which worked very well.

    For more than one reason, I had to switch to another supplier, which only carries, straight rock salt. I noticed a big difference, I use 2 times the amount.

    It is also very cold, and that is adding to the amount applied.

    I bought a vee pro 8000 and it works ok, but the capacity and feed rate are on the low side. (never mattered with treated salt)

    Does mixing liquid de-icer like magic work, and will it cut my qty. in half?

    Any other brands? Pricing to treat 1 ton of salt?

    Any recom. for a spray unit- web sites?

    My thoughts were to keep it simple, the spreader has a nice shoot that the salt slides down, just before the spinner. I thought that would be a good place for a nozzle, or drip hose.

    I have a liquid weed killer applicator that is nothing more than a tank, shut off valve, and a pipe with holes in it.

    I thought maybe something simple would do the trick, more or less liquid adjust the valve. Any thoughts on that simple set-up.

    I am not looking to make, or save much $ on this. I am trying to eliminate 2 or 3 more trips to the pile( 35-40 min round trip).

    Any ideas or advice would be great.
    Thanks always for your imputs- Mike
     
  2. Plow Meister

    Plow Meister PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,174

    I am getting set up to treat salt for next year. I will stockpile salt (about 100 tons) and have a mobile pre-treat system. I spoke with the company that mfg's Magic-O. It won't do you much good this year, but next year we should talk. Better yet, come to the CHicago tri-state beach party this July:drinkup:
     
  3. sr_innovative

    sr_innovative Junior Member
    from Toronto
    Messages: 14

    re

    Elite 1,

    In half is a little optimistic. We find that generally you will use about 20% to 40% less salt when pre-treated. Furthermore, the salt will melt lower and last longer.

    As you guys know, sodium chloride alone only melts down about 17.6 farenheit. Magic Salt works to approx. -8 to -11.

    We certainly think so!! :nod:


    With a setup like this, you may want to consider anti-icing or de-icing, in which liquid is applied directly, from concentrate, to the pavement, concrete, etc., and not mixed with salt. For this, you may use Magic-0, M1000, Meltdown, or NC3000. If you are interested, send me a line and I can put you in touch with the appropriate person.

    If you have any other questions, please let me know.

    srobbins@innovativecompany.com
    1.800.387.5777

    Innovative Envirotech.
     
  4. elite1

    elite1 Senior Member
    Messages: 187

    I made a big investment into this spreader and it seems ok. The only way I would go to an all liquid system is to prove to me that it works better, costs less, set up cost is less,no side effects, and a large amount of coverage area between fill ups.

    I have proved to my self that treated salt works and did cut my rate by 40%. I read here that some people do mix the two products, so I am interested in that method, at this point.

    My idea for a drip,gravity feed system is a low cost, and simple way to do it. No pumps, motors or extra stuff to mess with. I know that it would take a few loads to fully adjust. What I do not know is if that is a good idea, does it need a pump, will a drip system work to mix the salt.

    How many gal per ton? cost?