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poll -oil filter and warranty

Discussion in 'Truck & Equipment Repair' started by SnoFarmer, Oct 13, 2008.

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Will an aftermarket filter void the warranty

  1. Yes

    8.1%
  2. No

    91.9%
  1. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,437

    Will using an aftermarket oil filter void your warranty.
    (I'm posting this for a member who does not know how to post a poll)
     
  2. theplowmeister

    theplowmeister 2000 Club Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,548

    Should it void the warranty no.

    Will it void the warranty... I dont know, depends on what the manufacturer of the equipment says. If the manufacturer says it will void the warranty... then it will. the manufacturer can set ANY restrictions they want on the warranty. You may be able to sew them, like the product has to work for a reasonable amount of time. Its up to the manufacturer.

    JMO
     
  3. GPS

    GPS Senior Member
    from MA
    Messages: 268

    See attached copy of warranty info from Fram (all the companies say the same thing, though). If a vehicle manufacturer says you must use their oil filter to keep the warranty valid, they must provide the filter free of charge under federal law.


    http://www.fram.com/pdf/Warranty.pdf
     
  4. clark lawn

    clark lawn PlowSite.com Addict
    from NE ohio
    Messages: 1,233

    thats exactly what i was going to say
     
  5. Yaz

    Yaz PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,061

    No!

    Like as with oil as long as it meets or exceeds the makers filter.

    Come to think of it oil has SAE/ANSI ratings, but I never noticed the markings on a filter box.:confused:
     
  6. Milwaukee

    Milwaukee 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,180

    cool

    well there are several company do that.

    like powerstroke 6.0L require motorcraft oil filter because they design to fit but another brand cause problem. I am sure you can find lot info about oil filter for powerstroke 6.0L


    and I found that Hyduri do that. I am sure you know that. they force customer buy their oil filter but I heard it cost $7 for 1 so many people went cheap filter then went to shop bam they refused to do anything.

    it sound stupid but they are serious. Hyduri did post on website that say any aftermarket oil filters it will void warranty. lot people who own was mad because they didn't know that and their warranty is void.

    I say both yes or no. you forgot add poll say both.

    there are several dealer can be so strict then try save money by tell you have aftermarket. now they do because no one is buy new so they try stay surive but can't risk replace motors.

    I know but for me I rather use motorcraft until warranty expired then I will put KN or Baldwin oil filters.
     
  7. festerw

    festerw Senior Member
    Messages: 986

    #1 a dealer cannot void your warranty, they can refuse to cover it under a warranty repair in which case you should start calling district managers and corporate headquarters.

    #2 as long as the aftermarket filter meets or exceeds the specs of the OEM filter there should be no problem. Some manufacturers provide an approved filters list, I know Cummins for sure does.
     
  8. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    Mil, can I make a suggestion? If you're in school, take a grammar class. I haven't got the slightest clue what your post says. Seriously. I've read it twice and I still haven't figured it out.

    The warranty on the 6.0's has nothing to do with the oil filter, I have had numerous warranty repairs and never used Motorcraft unless the dealer had to change the oil because of the work they performed. And remember, I own 3 6.0's, so I have first hand knowledge, not my uncle's friend's brother's sister's girlfriend.
     
  9. mrmagnum

    mrmagnum Senior Member
    Messages: 162

    Mark, read Milwaukee's signature- the guy is deaf so it is hard for him to put sentences together that sound right.
     
  10. Milwaukee

    Milwaukee 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,180


    He already know last year.

    Well it your decision put aftermarket stuff on new vehicle. For me i feel safe with oem until warranty expired then I would put aftermarket.


    I say there are several thing that it can be void warranty. i would vote No but most time it could be yes. I say both.

    I know that Chrystal post recall for 5.9L with Fram oil filter then later now fram make new one for that.
     
  11. tls22

    tls22 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,263

    Perhaps theses guys can help!:waving:


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  12. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609

    i vote yes.
    im sure there is a warrantee loophole somewhere for them to avoid claims if you change your oil filter to a different brand. They pay teams of lawyers to write that crap.

    Not to say you couldnt win a refusal under warrantee for repair with your own teams of lawyers.............
    "They must supply it for free fram says so."
    tell the judge.........
     
  13. NICHOLS LANDSCA

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,302

    Aftermarket filters/oil won't void anything but mfg's can assign a spec. that nobody else has. Example, Volkswagen diesels oil spec. nobody met the spec. except Castrol who supplies Volkswagens oil. Now Amsoil and I think Royal Purple have oil that meets the spec.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2008
  14. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    And I really don't want to start it all over, but that's horse hockey. UNLESS, UNLESS Mil is using a voice to text program, but he doesn't answer that.

    If he reads PS and is taught\learning in school, he knows proper grammar, hearing has nothing to do with it. Once again, UNLESS he is using voice to text software.
     
  15. theplowmeister

    theplowmeister 2000 Club Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,548

    Some how I took that to mean adding a filter to the plows hydraulics :dizzy:
    As long as the filter meats the specs called for it wont void the warranty.
    Trying to get them to honor the warranty however........
     
  16. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,437

    yea i can see how that happened .I should have been more clear as to what i meant.
     
  17. sno commander

    sno commander PlowSite.com Addict
    from ct
    Messages: 1,061

    on my diesel i only use mopar filters.a friend of mine is a dodge mechanic and said never to use fram filters in a cummins. I don't know if this is true or not but i just spend a couple extra bucks and keep the dealer happy:D
     
  18. festerw

    festerw Senior Member
    Messages: 986

    Yup it's true at least for the older trucks.

    Date: May 18, 2001

    Models: 1989 -1993 (AD), 1994 - 2001 (BR/BE) Ram Truck

    NOTE: THIS BULLETIN INVOLVES 1989 - 201 MY 2500 AND 3500 RAM TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH A 5.9L CUMMINS DIESEL ENGINE.

    Discussion:

    Customer may complain of high oil consumption, grey oil smoke coming out of the exhaust or breather tube, or mechanical knocking. Neoprene compounds used internally in the manufacture of oil filters not recommended by DaimlerChrysler may separate from the filter, lodge in the piston cooling nozzle, and can fail the engine.

    NOTE: THIS IS NOT AN ENGINE DEFECT.

    (See the table below for a list of filters recommended by DaimlerChrysler for use with the 5.9L Cummins diesel engine.)

    NOTE: SECTION 2.7 OF THE TRUCK WARRANTY MANUAL STATES DAIMLERCHRYSLER MOTORS CORPORATION IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR FAILURES RESULTING FROM IMPROPER REPAIR OR THE USE OF PARTS WHICH ARE NOT GENUINE DAIMLERCHRYSLER MOTORS CORPORATION / MOPAR OR DAIMLERCHRYSLER MOTORS CORPORATION / MOPAR APPROVED PARTS. DAMAGES CAUSED BY THE USE OF OIL FILTER NOT APPROVED BY DAIMLERCHRYSLER MAY NOT BE COVERED BY THE NEW VEHICLE WARRANTY. DAIMLERCHRYSLER RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING OIL FILTERS. DO NOT USE ANY OIL FILTER CONTAINING NEOPRENE. PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS.

    RECOMMENDED OIL FILTERS FOR USE WITH CUMMINS 5.9L DIESEL ENGINE:


    Part Number Manufacturer
    05016547AC Mopar
    LF3894 Fleetguard Stratopore
    LF3552 Fleetguard Microglass
    LF3949 Fleetguard Cellulose
    3937695 Cummins Cellulose
    FL896 MotorCraft Cellulose
    L45335 Purolator Cellulose
    PF1070 AC Delco Cellulose

    Policy: Information Only

    Notes:

    The LF3349 Cellulose filter does not appear on this list. It was approved in the past for 12Valve engines, but it has been superseded by the LF3949, which has a stronger metal case for the 24 Valve engines. You can use your existing LF3349's for 12 valve engines without concern about warranty coverage.
     
  19. bharry20

    bharry20 Senior Member
    Messages: 124

    boy oh boy. the only thing that comes to mind is [​IMG]
     
  20. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,437

    I see you haven't voted yet.:nono: vote no opinion.
    pleases hold you opinion until you vote,
    (isn't that the American way if you don't vote don't btich about it..)

    Thanks:waving: