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Plowing with powerstroke diesel

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by ilucas, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. ilucas

    ilucas Member
    Messages: 43

    I have a 2010 f350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. I have been plowing with it since new in 09. I have had it with the regen "drive vehicle to clean exhaust" flash on the dash!!! This comes on in the most in opportune time. Over the years I would say it has come on about 6 times while plowing ( once in white out conditions) it is a pita to drive 20 miles at 40 mph in a snow storm to burn off that cleaning process.

    My question is to the guys that have the new ford 6.7's or the dodge Cummings if they have this problem when plowing with the newer diesels.

    I will be in the market for a new truck this year and I will go back to a gasser unless they improved this process.

    Looking forward to responses....thanks
     
  2. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,489

    I had some stuff stolen;)from under mine....


    But the new urea trucks don't seem to be having this issue.

    Unless you have another use for the diesel the new high hp gasses seem to be
    A good alternative.
     
  3. kimber750

    kimber750 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,638

    Even removing the dpf will not stop the truck from going through regen. Now if you are lucky enough to have one of the programs/chips from before the EPA went fine happy you will be good. There are still ways to get around it. Even the newer software for the ecu programers can no longer delete the DPF but still there are ways around that also. Thumbs Up
     
  4. derekslawncare

    derekslawncare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,003

    When I bought my truck, they (Ford) were offering "automatic regen" (truck automatically enters regen process whenever it feels it needs it and conditions are right, IE: speed, heat and whatever) or "manual command regen" meaning the truck notifies you via the dash and then you manually put it into regen mode when you know you will be driving in a manner to provide for proper regen. That being said, I figured what the heck, the truck should know when to do it, why do I need to mess with it and got auto regen. Works fine, the only issue is that half the time when it enters regen mode (it alerts you on the dash when doing it), it is just before I am getting ready to exit the highway and so I don't think it always has time to do a full regen properly. So, I think it probably does several partial regens and uses smurf piss that it doesn't need to instead of just doing one full regen at the right time. But, it has never run bad or had any notifications on the dash that something is wrong from not doing full regens, it just does it again at its first opportunity.

    If I had it to do all over again, I would probably spend the couple extra hundred for the manual command option as it would probably save on DEF cost.
     
  5. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,489

    Sure it will, but it also puts it into limp mode that even Viagra can't fix
    Untill fixed and codes cleared

    If you have the cash the boys now have EFI live and are continually cracking the code as they come out.

    On mine I just used 3, 100ohm resisters in place of the temp probes, to save the replacement cost ;)
    Using these it will never even try to regen even if the timer tells it to.


    But the "new" diesels have even more power and use urea. From what I've heard about them is , you no longer have to take them for a drive when the old regen required message pops up.
     
  6. Flawless440

    Flawless440 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,543

    No problem in my 6.7...

    Been on the freeway while it has come on didn't have to reduce speed.. Don't think it's ever come on in a snow event..

    I traded in a 6.0 For this truck.. wasn't going to go back to ford after the 6.0 but I have been happy. . Truck dose need a dam radiator but I'm still using it.
    Ford has tried to make everything easier to work on with this 6.7. Been impressed
     
  7. 04trd

    04trd Senior Member
    Messages: 162

    Tried to make everything easier to work on!? Have you popped the hood on your 6.7? Good luck working on anything in that motor haha
     
  8. OneBadDodge06

    OneBadDodge06 Senior Member
    from Iowa
    Messages: 734

    Dodge back to making the mysterious cummings that no one has ever seen again?

    If I had a diesel with the regeneration crap I'd have it completely "stolen". Not worth the hassle.
     
  9. 05ram

    05ram Member
    Messages: 71

    Happened to me today Plowing. I was doing a larger Commercial Property. I just kept on Plowing. I could smell it doing the regen. After a while it stopped. I guess the same as being on the highway. I think it's more about the temperature rather than the number of miles driven which tells it to stop. Really want to delete but I would like to see or go for a ride in one first.
     
  10. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Unless you need to tow large weight, a gasser is the better engine for every day use. No complaints with mine. I might buy a diesel next time, but only because I kind of want the power...not because I really need it.
     
  11. Flawless440

    Flawless440 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,543

    I decided not to delete or mod anything on this 6.7...
    After dealing with the 6.0 for 4 years i felt the more i did to it the more crap would go wrong..
    The 6.0 had to have the egr done no matter what, but once that started at 45k miles it was never ending with the problems.
     
  12. Ryank

    Ryank Senior Member
    Messages: 109

    a delete pipe and tuner cost around 1300-1400 problem solved. i know of several guys that have over 150,000 miles on their trucks like this 0 issues. I started plowing with a 7.3 back in 2011 now i still have my 7.3 and i plow in a 2010 f350 6.4 with 117,000 on it zero issues and instead of plowing with a 300 dollar mm1 fisher straight blade with rust holes i have two stainless 8.6 v plows one for my 97 7.3 and one brand new xv2 for my 6.4 I'm probably gonna stick with the powerstrokes, no real issues that aren't easily avoidable with a good mechanic that knows powerstroke diesels.
     
  13. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,734

    I know quite a few people who plow with powerstrokes, anywhere from OBS 7.3's up to 2015's. Most all of the 2008 and newer trucks have had random parts fall off and now they run much better and are 10x more reliable. Even the 6.0's have had some parts fall off and a few parts exchanged and now they run 10x better as well.

    This is the last 6.4 I was driving that made me drive it to regen. Something about idling around a field all day cleaning up torn out tree lines while it was still stock made it mad. Bunch of parts fell off and now it doesn't care what you do to it.
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  14. derekslawncare

    derekslawncare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,003



    :laughing::laughing:
     
  15. ilucas

    ilucas Member
    Messages: 43


    Thanks for your response....is yours a 6.7 powerstroke? I would go for the manual regen also if it is an option now. My truck has never had a problem either but like you said it likes to start the regen process just as you are ready to park it!
     
  16. ilucas

    ilucas Member
    Messages: 43

    Thanks for all the responses!!!

    Nothing has ever been stolen or fell from underneath my truck. I have a friend that never had anything but issues after his stuff got stolen and another friend who lost everything on his and he loves it!

    I have had all my service done at the dealership since new. I am a carpenter and never took to the wrenches so I bring to them. Now that the truck is off warranty I will start looking for a good diesel mechanic. If anyone knows of one in southern NH you can pm me.....thanks
     
  17. derekslawncare

    derekslawncare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,003

    Yes, it's a 6.7L
     
  18. rob_cook2001

    rob_cook2001 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,181

    I have been driving diesels since I was 16. Mostly powerstrokes. Unless you are going to delete it right away I would recommend you buy a gas truck. The 6.7's are a good engine but government regulations have really clogged them up. Ever truck I have owned is a diesel except my2013, it has a 6.2. Plowing snow and towing 12k regularly it does great. I still own diesels and my next new truck will be a 6.7 but the gas engine is a much better choice financially.
    Good luck.
     
  19. cornbinder

    cornbinder Senior Member
    Messages: 348

    As far as the regen goes while plowing, what about switching to low range? I would think that speeding the engine up it would regen without having to drive down the road???? I don't have this problem as I have 7.3's
     
  20. Jeckstine

    Jeckstine Member
    from PA
    Messages: 55

    I have a 2015 6.7. It has gone into regen three times so far this winter when plowing. It does smell when you back up. If I stop and let it idle for a few min to do something it has turned off and will turn itself back on when i start plowing again. I have not noticed any performance issues when in regen and plowing. I thought I had read in the book that you had to be going at least 40 mph for it to kick in. But that does not seem to be the case.