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Plowing with Cummins and Timbrens

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by Jason762, Dec 26, 2007.

  1. Jason762

    Jason762 Junior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 21

    I'm looking to get into plowing and after speaking to many dealers I find that I am limited in what type of plow I can put on due to the weight of my Cummins diesel motor. I drive a 2007 Dodge 2500 5.9 liter quad cab (no snow plow prep package). I recently learned about Timbrens and am wondering if these would solve my problem. I would like to put an 8' Fisher HD plow on the truck. Has anyone else done something similar and what were your results? Suggestions??
     
  2. Camden

    Camden PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,598

    Timbrens work really well. Do a search of the forum and you'll find that a lot of members are having huge success with them (me included).

    They're easy to install and they're not very expensive...can't go wrong.
     
  3. Oasis

    Oasis Senior Member
    Messages: 273

    I would take what the dealer said with a grain of salt. I am not sure why your Cummins Engin makes that much of a difference. The specs of your 2500 is approx. 5200 lbs gross weight on the front and 6000 lbs on the back. I drive a Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi with similar specs and we have 7.5 foot western on it with absolutely no problem and no timbrens. Double check the specs on your truck but there shouldnt be any weight problem with any plow on your truck.
     
  4. Jason762

    Jason762 Junior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 21

    The weight issue is not just what the dealer said but directly off the Manufacturer's website that matches your vehicle to the type of plow you can use. Western's site shows that I can put an 8' Pro Plow on but I would prefer the Fisher for the trip edge.
     
  5. dforbes

    dforbes Senior Member
    Messages: 247

    I have a 02 Dodge quad cab with the cummins engine, I installed Timbrens and a 9 1/2' hiniker V-plow. It works very well. Very little squating when plow is lifted. The truck drives good and you dont know the plow is there. Now I cant say I wont have to replace front end parts more often but that is part of it.
     
  6. smoore45

    smoore45 Senior Member
    Messages: 526

    The plow you mentioned should be just fine for that truck. The vehicle Manufacturers put slighty stiffer springs on the Diesel trucks to account for the extra weight of the engine. Find out what the difference in total weight of the two plows you mention are. I bet they are within 100lbs, which is no big deal. Can't comment on the Timberens, but they look like a good option.
     
  7. Jason762

    Jason762 Junior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 21

    The big problem seems to be that the dealer will not install the Fisher 8' HD on my truck because the said they aren't allowed to due to the weight issue.
     
  8. jkitterman

    jkitterman Senior Member
    Messages: 140

    You are running out of front axle rating or over the GVWR with the larger plows and that truck with the recommended ballast. Do you have the short bed or long? Really, you don't have much payload capacity in the 2500 series with the Cummins option. To get an idea of what you are up against, go take your truck with you and a full tank of fuel and weigh it. Once you add the weight of the plow and mount, you will see there isn't much left.
     
  9. Jason762

    Jason762 Junior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 21

    The truck has a short bed
     
  10. MileHigh

    MileHigh PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,827

    I'd Put a bigger plow on my little 1/2 ton!
     
  11. carcrz

    carcrz Senior Member
    Messages: 295

    I've got an EZ-V on my '05 Ram QC SB w/ Cummins. It is heavy on the front & I need Timbrens or something. It does fine while plowing, but driving down the road & hitting a bump sends the plow right into the ground.
     
  12. ProSeasons

    ProSeasons Senior Member
    Messages: 624

    This post is funny. Imagine if you took that truck and put TWO plows on it! Could'nt possibly imagine a spreader full of salt around 800 pounds on TOP of all that. Right?


    Nah.:Dpayup
     
  13. THEGOLDPRO

    THEGOLDPRO PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,136

    had the same problem when my buddy wanted to put an 8 foot plow on his 05 ram cummins, the fisher dealer wasnt having it, something about the weight with the cummins, and the quadcab. but we went to the curtis dealer and they put a nice 8 footer on it for him.
     
  14. jkitterman

    jkitterman Senior Member
    Messages: 140

    Why is the post so funny? He was wondering why the plow manufacturers won't allow certain larger plows on that vehicle and i explained that they don't go over what Dodge has for ratings. I never said the truck would stop working but in this day, it is liability first.
     
  15. OneBadDodge06

    OneBadDodge06 Senior Member
    from Iowa
    Messages: 735

    My cummins does just fine with my MVP doesn't squat but maybe a half inch with the timbrens and 600# in the back.

    So if your dealer won't install it save yourself the overrated big bucks they want to do it yourself. Its easy if you just follow the directions and take your time. If you get stuck there's plenty of good dude's on here that will help you out!!
     
  16. ProSeasons

    ProSeasons Senior Member
    Messages: 624

     
  17. blk90s13

    blk90s13 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,157

  18. DaySpring Services

    DaySpring Services PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,065

    The cummins weighs about 500lbs more than a gasser if I remember right. Add timbrens and you'll be set to put about any plow on you want. One thing to remember is plow manufactures go off axle rating. The only problem with this is they do it with the truck full of people. So if you have a quad cab they're giving you the rating with 5 or even 6 people in the truck. I dont know too many people that plow while being a taxi. Put what you want on the truck!!
     
  19. KGRlandscapeing

    KGRlandscapeing 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,660

    ya its ur truck ur gonna have to plow with it dont get a plow just to get a plow get one u like and understand.
     
  20. acutlc76

    acutlc76 Junior Member
    from ct
    Messages: 2

    i have a 05 with a cummins and they put a 81/2 ft fisher mm2 on it and i have no problems at all