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Please help me bid!!

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by YPLLLC, Dec 8, 2008.


    YPLLLC Senior Member
    Messages: 144

    Hey guys new to pricing subdivisions and really need detailed help on pricing these two. I am pricing these as a sub for someone else. What would you charge for them? Please let me know ASAP I am looking to get about $85/hour as a sub. I dont think thats to high. Please help me bid these!!!!! This is for a price per push and does not include salt!!! THANKS

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    YPLLLC Senior Member
    Messages: 144

    I have to give the bid fairly soon, THANKS!!

    YPLLLC Senior Member
    Messages: 144

    no ideas????
  4. Kenyou

    Kenyou Senior Member
    Messages: 375

    If you have been reading P.S. very long, you should have found out that they guys need a lot more information on the equipment that you have to use and how big the area is. Maybe you could just drive the streets and see how long it takes you to give yourself an idea. Of course you will have to figure in the driveways also. How big are they. Do you have to take the snow from one place to another to get it out of the way?
    It all takes time and time is money.

    YPLLLC Senior Member
    Messages: 144

    Hey ya totally did not even think of saying what I am using. It is a Snoway 7'6" and this contract is just for the streets not the driveways, also in no area does the snow need to be moved to, I am told to bid it as if i was just like the highway department plowing it. Total amount of streets for both combined is roughly 8 miles. I think it will be 4 passes which makes it a "total" of 32 miles and that is basically 4 hours if i go 8mph. and then i figure an hour for doing intersections and what not. Do those numbers make sense? Or am I way off?
  6. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,521

    r u trying to be a sub or get your own accounts?

    YPLLLC Senior Member
    Messages: 144

    We have a few of our own accounts but am bidding out some sub work to fill time. This is for being a sub
  8. mike33087

    mike33087 Senior Member
    Messages: 555

    $85 an hr per truck is decent money, but your gonna beat the heck outta your 1/2 tons plowing streets
  9. Burkartsplow

    Burkartsplow PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,248

    Those trucks and blades are not made for clearing streets like said above. You are going to do more damage then you make in money. And why did you buy 3 new 1/2 ton trucks for plowing anyways?
  10. qualitycut

    qualitycut PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,226

    Let alone Toyota's?
  11. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth Senior Member
    Messages: 211

    Toyota has a stronger frame by design then chevy/GMC. At least back when I did my research in 2004. Ford was the strongest. Still don't know if they would lsat plowing roads though. Hope you just leased them! LOL
  12. atgreene

    atgreene Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    I would strongly recommend that you not attempt to plow roads with a 1/2 ton truck and 7 1/2' blade. No matter who makes the truck, a 7 1/2' blade is not made for that type of plowing. Just my 2 cents.
  13. scottL

    scottL PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,600

    Normally I'd help give you some specifics .... Snoway is a good plow and I have done public streets with them. The issue is you need at least an 8.6 to be serious. Secondly, toyota has no better frame than gm and in fact the front end is a pile of crap. Yes I did look at them seriously. The nex gen of toyota will have it right.

    You'll be making 6 passes, not 4. It's not as easy as nearly dividing the street width by plow width.

    You could simply switch the blade out for a larger one and keep everything else. Get a snow deflector as well.
  14. Dodge Plow Pwr

    Dodge Plow Pwr Senior Member
    Messages: 568

    Also remember that the snow being pushed from the first pass from the middle to the edge will be pushing against you on your second pass in the same direction so that will slow you down as well as fight you keeping the steering wheel cocked to fight it back. You will at the least be making 2 passes per side of the road. I have a 9' with pro wings and make one pass down the center of the road and then one on each side.
    Another thing is IF you get this make sure that you will not be responsible for curb repair if you should happen to hit one and break it. I plow subdivisions under construction and the final layer of black top is not on there yet so the road is lower than the curb, very easy to chip and or crack curbs and very expensive to repair in the spring.
    Good luck
  15. YPLLLC

    YPLLLC Senior Member
    Messages: 144

    Thanks for the input everyone!!! I got the bid but had to settle for $60 an hour. oh well, and ya i know that this blade is not good for streets, but right now i am taking whatever I can get. In the long run I do not plan on doing streets. Also I did not just buy the trucks for plowing, in fact only one will have a plow. I own a landscaping company and the last few years we have ran two trucks (toyotas) this year, after having a successful year we decided to trade in the trucks for some V-8's and because we liked toyota so much for the last few years we traded 2 for 3 and thats where i stand. If anyone wants to ridicule me for buying foreign trucks please find the other thread where it seems to be very popular to put down anyone who does not buy american!!!!!!! THANKS
  16. M&M

    M&M Senior Member
    Messages: 312

    Not to be a jerk but I think you should work on your negotiation skills. I'm just trying to help you here not ridicule you. You took $60 instead of $85 for your time that's a 30% discount that the contractor you are working for received. You put yourself in a tight spot if you plan on doing more work for this company because he knows you will significantly lower your price. I know you need the work, I get it, but there are instances where you have to walk if the negotiations begin to move out of your favor. Again, I'm not trying to bust b@lls but rather trying to help.
  17. YPLLLC

    YPLLLC Senior Member
    Messages: 144

    Ya i agree with you, however the $85 was basically a guess on my behalf as to what subs were getting out here in St. Louis. After I said 85 he told me i was on the high side, he came back with 55 and we settled on 60 i know its less than I wanted but im gonna trust his word for now about the sub prices unless i find out otherwise. Thanks for your imput though i do appreciate it
  18. TPC Services

    TPC Services Senior Member
    Messages: 875

    $55 for 1/2 tons straight blades up to $70 for 1ton or 3/4 vplows and the knowlege of driver, is the going rate here in the midwest, for subs !!
  19. plownoob

    plownoob Senior Member
    from ny
    Messages: 128

    I called an ad for subs in my area. Guy said he pays $55/hr for 1ton vblades and cgl. I'd do it if I find a beater plow truck...not with the rig I have now.
  20. 02 Stroked

    02 Stroked Member
    Messages: 33

    Man that's really cheap. I get $85 an hour to sub out my 1 ton with an 8 foot poly here in Saint Louis.