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Piling (stacking) bulk salt

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by spaceman12321, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. spaceman12321

    spaceman12321 Junior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 20

    I'm curious how well a tracked skid steer would pile bulk salt.

    Currently with our wheeled skid loader we can only pile about 6' high in a bin. We can't drive on the pile without sinking and the slope of the pile prevents piling any higher. My thought was a tracked loader would allow us to drive on the pile and stack as high as we cared, at least in my theory.

    Obviously a wheeled larger loader could stack higher, but the investment along with hauling/limited use of a loader over 10k lbs for our application is limiting. Also, I've heard of people stacking with a farm type grain conveyor, but I don't know how well they would hold up to corrosion and I understand the speed is slow.
     
  2. madmaxxxx

    madmaxxxx Member
    Messages: 65

    A track machine will drive right up the pile.
     
  3. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    How much do you like the under carrage of your machine? Because you will need to thoughtly was it out after running it in the salt. You would be surprized where that salt can get.
     
  4. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    You mean like this?

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  5. Flipper

    Flipper PlowSite.com Addict
    from CT
    Messages: 1,180

    I rent a loader for one day. They bring it in, I get my salt delivered, stack it and they come pick it up the next morning. I don't get a big one but one with just enough lift height.

    As said I try to minimize actually having my skid run over salt as it gets in everywhere. A few hundred on rental easily pays for itself in a well packed salt shed.
     
  6. Jay brown

    Jay brown PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,783

    mark o, how may ton can you get in there? looks nice!
     
  7. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    Previously we had about 150ish tons. With the salt 'shortage' lat week I think we had closer to 200 crammed into it.

    And yes, the Bobcat is showing the effects of it, but I consider a cost of doing business. Wish I didn't have to, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
     
  8. andrewlawnrangr

    andrewlawnrangr Senior Member
    Messages: 339

    i would just drive that into a local stream and let it soak to get al that salt out of the U/C.
    or wash it really good


    nice building.
     
  9. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    We do wash it regularly, but it still is starting to look bad, but it's a few year's old now too.

    The building has been replaced since that pic. Had a couple small tears in the tarp that got a bunch worse during a couple wind storms. Went with a CoverAll hoop style instead of the peak style.
     
  10. Jay brown

    Jay brown PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,783

    hey mark another ? for you.....do you like the maffia blocks or would you rather have formed concrete walls and why......just wondered because i'll be building something next year
     
  11. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    Jay, while the mafia blocks work fine, I'd rather have the poured walls to prevent any leaching in and out. I really need to reconfigure the whole thing.
     
  12. Italiano67

    Italiano67 Senior Member
    Messages: 640

    Why not keep your machine covered in a light coating of fluid Film. I spray mine down mainly for trailering it as the salt from the road spray can make it look crappy in a hurry.
     
  13. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    I cover every square inch of my equipment in FF and the tractor we load salt with still shows signs of decay. The tractor pushes up and loads well over 1200 tons/year so I think it can be expected. I'm not sure what it would look like if I didn't rust proof it.
     
  14. mkwl

    mkwl 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,361

    All I can say is OUCH! I feel bad for that poor loader that now has salt packed into all of its lower components!:dizzy::cry:
     
  15. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    Mark's not too sad because he knows how much money it's made him!!
     
  16. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    1000+ tons a year for the last 5 years, pretty good IMO. More electrical issues than lower components.

    That's 1000 stacked and then loaded into trucks.

    Got a better idea for something that makes me money in summer and winter?

    Bingo, I knew you would get it.
     
  17. Flipper

    Flipper PlowSite.com Addict
    from CT
    Messages: 1,180

    All part of having a machine. Even with mine not driving up the pile it still gets flung up underneath. We pulled the lower pan last spring and found a good inch of salt on it. Nothing you can do. Wash it down and go on. At least I know it is working and thus a good investment.
     
  18. mulcahy mowing

    mulcahy mowing Senior Member
    Messages: 718

    Yep its all part of the business equipment gets beat up thats what its built for get used anf make $$. you don't feel bad about hanging a plow off your truck although its bad for it.
     
  19. Italiano67

    Italiano67 Senior Member
    Messages: 640

    I just wish everyone in business could see that it costs money to do this business. Around here they basically spread salt for about the hourly rate of a plow truck and barely mark up the salt at all. No wonder they dump it on.
     
  20. spaceman12321

    spaceman12321 Junior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 20

    Thanks all, especially mark for the pictures. I'm thinking I'll rent a tracked machine for when I need to stack the salt for now, better salt all in the undercarriage of their loader anyhow.