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Pictures of sno fighter/commander controls and such?

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by Kentuckydiesel, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. Kentuckydiesel

    Kentuckydiesel Senior Member
    Messages: 151

    I just won a meyer plow setup off a dodge on ebay. It uses the old rod style controls. I need to see how it all mounts up in the dash and underhood if anyone could help me out. The stuff is already off the truck so I have nothing to look at when putting it on my '79 W150. Thanks, Phillip
     
  2. RODHALL

    RODHALL Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    I have an older snow commander set up on my truck, I’ll get some pictures in the morning.
     
  3. wickedcarpenter

    wickedcarpenter Member
    Messages: 36

    ....

    I hope you asked the seller what shape the hyd pump is in as You can not find them anywhere. It's a great system if the pump is in good working order.I've had 1 rust holes in it and another the bearing went out on it.
    Brent
     
  4. Kentuckydiesel

    Kentuckydiesel Senior Member
    Messages: 151

    He said he was told it works.

    I got the 7.5' meyer plow, dodge truck mount, and hydraulics all for just under $170. How can I go wrong??????
    Do you guys know of any particular weaknesses or tricks to these systems?

    Thanks rodhall, that'd be great -Phillip
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2005
  5. RODHALL

    RODHALL Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    Finding parts for the pump, and control valving are the hardest things to do, but if you know a good machine shop they can make you what you need.

    Resivor
    I had to shim mine out away from the fender. this is on a 86 truck they have the long hood hinges and would of hit the Resivor

    Hydraulic Controller
    (here again you have to drill 3 holes into the fire wall 2 for the rods and 1 for the light wiring. i still dont have the lights wired up for this truck yet)

    Pump
    With it in this location it uses a 51 inch belt

    Controls in side the cab
    the mounting plate and knobs were missing to this plow so i fab some up from 1/8 plate and 2 knobs off a lawn mower.

    There are lots more strong points to these plow set-ups then most want to admit too
    * Lines only cost $24-26
    * Maitainace =check lines for cracks / leaks replace fluid Adjust the belt yearly
    * If a line does brake it a 20 minuet fix
     
  6. Kentuckydiesel

    Kentuckydiesel Senior Member
    Messages: 151

    Thanks, That's a big help. Where is your PS pump located? Thanks, Phillip
     
  7. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,614

    my pump is (was) located top center. on my sno commander.
    The valve body was mounted on the left fender well close to the fire wall. The two control rods can pass through the fire wall to the inside of the cab the controls are located to the left of the steering wheel on the lower part of the dash. Two holes are needed for them to go thought. The res is also on the left fender.
    Thats where the union worker mounted it...:waving:
    I would take a pic for you but I removed all of that stuff. The valve body is unreliable. I machined a new block for the bypass and that worked good, I sold it last year to a guy needing one.

    I was tired of trinketing with it all the time . SO I installed a Western power unit.
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2005
  8. Kentuckydiesel

    Kentuckydiesel Senior Member
    Messages: 151

    Thanks, union member. :rolleyes:

    -ex union member (phillip):waving:
     
  9. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,614

    LOL:drinkup:

    I'll be an ex member to :D Offed early retirement..( down seizings, cut backs, buy out)
    And I said, H@!! YES!!! I'll be done, Aug 1st. After 24 years. My summer job of playing heavy equipment operator/ Foreman// and any thing else that may need to be done in real life. lol...
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2005
  10. RODHALL

    RODHALL Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    Under the plow pump.
    I’ll get pics of the P/S pump tomorrow

    The plow pump is mounted where the smog or air pump normally would be mounted on the 80’s trucks.
     
  11. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,614

    O.k.
    Off of what year truck did the plow pump come off of?
    On the 70's trucks the plow pump is top center and the power steering pump is on the lower right, no smog pump lol

    Here is the pump location on a 79
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2008
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,614

    here is one more pic.
    There are more pics of this set up in the non-commercial forum IE<1975 power wagon control
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2008
  13. Kentuckydiesel

    Kentuckydiesel Senior Member
    Messages: 151

    My truck is a '79 with a transplanted 360. It was originally a slant 6. My P/S pump is low on the right, alt is high left, and the only other pullys are water pump and crankshaft, although I plan to add an A/C compressor since the '93 cab is set up for it. -Phillip

    enginebay.JPG
     
  14. RODHALL

    RODHALL Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    Bad picture but under the plow pump you can see the P/S pump pulley
    P/S pulley
     
  15. RODHALL

    RODHALL Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    Your alt looks like it is in the right place the A/C goes on top like in this pic
     
  16. RODHALL

    RODHALL Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    Umm in those 2 pictures it shows the plow pump in the lower left hand side of the motor (first pic you can see frame rail and motor mount) (second pic confirms this if you fallow the feed line out of the reservoir down to the pump)( Second picture you can see a smog/Air pump)

    My plow is off a 77-8 sno-commander
     
  17. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,614

    Uhhhmmmm,:rolleyes: You know there was "is" more than one configuration?
    On my 74' sno-commander, no air, no smog, on the 318 Eng, the plow pump was located at top center. The pic posted is of the another location that was mentioned...
     
  18. RODHALL

    RODHALL Senior Member
    Messages: 374

    Sorry I misunderstood ya ( I took it that plow pump was top center location like you said)

    They did use 3 different locations
    Lower left, upper left and top center. still only one was used with A/C

    If he puts the plow pump in the upper left he can still ad his air at later date when he wants to, without having to find a new place to mount his plow pump. This also saves from finding or getting new longer P/S pump lines made.

    The only thing I can’t make out (on his picture) is if he has the 2 groove water pump and 4 crank pulleys. That are needed to run the 2 back belts for the Water pump – air – alt. 3rd belt runs the P/S pump and front belt runs the plow pump. If it doesn’t have 2 belts for the air when he the compressor kicks on it shreds a single belt.
     
  19. Kentuckydiesel

    Kentuckydiesel Senior Member
    Messages: 151

    I have a 3 groove crank pulley and a 1 groove water pump pulley. It looks like I can put another belt in the back groove of the crank pulley which is unused and run it over to the plow pump if I mount it above the P/S pump. Agree????

    Also, what is the screw with the lock nut on the side of the valve block......on the part that snofarmer had machined, then gave/sold to the guy with the '75 power wagon???? A Bypass??? What is that? Thanks, Phillip
     
  20. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,614

    Thats it!! , It' the high pressure by-pass. I machined a new one out of a block of aluminum for the by-pass, it's a weak area. There known for leaking, cracking. etc pita!!