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Overkill Truck?

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by Rico454, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. Rico454

    Rico454 Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    1988 Chevy 3500 Dump Truck
    Short wheel base
    4x4 Dually
    454 TBI engine
    4-speed manual
    Dana 60 Front axle
    Dana 70 Rear axle

    Is this truck in your opinion too much? Is the 454 going to use way too much gas or do you really need the power to plow. Also is there such a thing that this truck may weigh too much? I know this is a really heavy duty truck, I just want some input from you guys if you ever wished to go stronger. wesport

    I use this truck at a boat marina and this WILL haul ANYTHING!
     
  2. FLASHMAN

    FLASHMAN Member
    Messages: 78

    No such thing as overkill when you're plowing... I supposed it does depend on what you mean by overkill of course. If you're concerned avout tight spaces, plow with a jeep... Other than that, I'd say that's a great truck to plow with. Look around here for info on how to protect the truck from typical plow damage. LOTS of info, and some VERY smart people here... enjoy..
     
  3. lilweeds

    lilweeds PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,178

    Wanna sell it? I'd buy that in a heartbeat!
     
  4. dirt digger

    dirt digger Senior Member
    Messages: 619

    i drove my first 454 in a 3500 SRW this past storm plowing for the township....she drank it down good as far as fuel...19 gallons in 3 hours, then again we were plowing pretty hard (35MPH road plowing)

    plenty of power though
     
  5. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,734

    19 gallons in 3 hours, Wow. I didn't know that was possible. My 350 might burn 6 gallons in 3hrs.
     
  6. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    My 350 burns through about 4 gallons an hour, or so. I have a 9 ft blade on it, so it's pushing some weight, oh yea I have about 1500 pound of salt in the back of it as well. Maybe thats my problem, lol.
     
  7. fireball

    fireball PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 536

    by 1989 the 454 became the standard order engine for the K3500 series. Best you ever got was 10mpg. Being that I thought it was a gas guzzler the next truck I ordered I speced it with a 350. The gas mileage was the same but it took forever to get to 50 mph from a dead stop. Stay with the 454.
     
  8. CAT 245ME

    CAT 245ME PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,032

    Mark, I had a 86 GMC K15, I bought a 400ci sbc (6.6L) and had put in the truck to replace the tired 305, well that 400 was a strong engine but I would only get 220 kilometers out of a tank of gas and the truck was stock. The GMC is gone but I did keep that 400ci. Someday it will live again.:D
     
  9. scooled101

    scooled101 Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 112

    my 93 350 burns about 3 gallons an hour my 96 burns 4 + and my tracker burns a 1 gallon or so max an hour and thats moving around quickly.

    The 454 did eat some gas tons of power and of course a k&n filter helped all of our big blocks and our other vehicles. How much snow are you averaging where you live? If its cheap enuff buy it and if anything sell make profit and buy something else
     
  10. jdknight75

    jdknight75 Senior Member
    Messages: 106

    Rico i have the 8.1 liter 496, it does burn a little extra gas, luckily gas prices are low right now. As far as weighing to much, some manufactures say the front axle weight is to much with the big blocks, but my truck barely sqauts with the plow on, so you shouldnt have any problems at all.
     
  11. BigDave12768

    BigDave12768 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,446

    Throw a plow on it. It cant hurt
     
  12. Rico454

    Rico454 Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    Here in Pennsylvania the big blocks and the small blocks get roughly the same mpg going up and all these hills. So I think I like the idea of having the 454. On smaller 1/2 ton trucks I hear of problems of breaking their axles and pieces. But will the D60 or D70 still break pieces anyway?

    And this may be a little off the subject but who prefers a manual over automatic? :jester:
     
  13. Turbodiesel

    Turbodiesel Senior Member
    Messages: 428

    no such thing as too much
     
  14. scooled101

    scooled101 Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 112

    to be honest the dana rear ends are going to be the least of your worries them axles are bullet proof i have a bunch of sets i keep around for our mudding trucks. the whole tuck is set up to be a work horse there isnt going to be much that truck cant do.
     
  15. Steve 455

    Steve 455 Member
    Messages: 74

    The manual trans sucks, reverse is geared way too low for backing up;)
     
  16. Rico454

    Rico454 Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    Thanks for all the replies.
    I will give this truck a shot at full time plowing. But first the engine needs to be rebuilt. I think it's only running on 7 cylinders and is getting low compression on some of the others. But it's still the best truck that I can think of. I'm thinking along the lines of better intake, exhaust headers and only if necessary a better cam.

    Is there a way to wake this 454 up from the stock factory settings that chevy gave it?

    Are there any recomendations on how to improve the engine a little bit without going wild?
    :help:
     
  17. Steve 455

    Steve 455 Member
    Messages: 74

    Here's a few shots of my 86 1 ton 454 4 speed Dana 60 and 70 axles with a locker in back and 4:10 gears :cool:

    The 4 speed sucks and it's coming out soon for a TH700...

    HPIM1237.jpg

    HPIM1238.jpg

    HPIM1237a.jpg
     
  18. scooled101

    scooled101 Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 112

    well first if you are going to pull the motor see if it has oval port or rectangle port heads if you dont want to dig that deep just throw a mild cam in it like an rv cam, intake, carb and a set of headers that'll waker her up for sure. just dont go to big on any of the above mentioned or you really will loose all your mileage. drop a 350 in it until you are done rebuilding the big block, I have been down this road before its nice to keep the truck going
     
  19. Steve 455

    Steve 455 Member
    Messages: 74

    Im an Olds guy. Im probably gonna swap in a built 455 Olds into mine this spring :p
     
  20. scooled101

    scooled101 Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 112

    nothin wrong with the olds rocket motors they are hard to find though you must be lucky to have a few