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Opinions on a 2003 Chevy 2500HD

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by brian m, Oct 21, 2004.

  1. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    I see that there are alot of you out there plowing with a 2500HD with various cabs, engines and tranny pkgs. I'm about to buy a 2003 Chevy 2500HD regular cab with the 6.0 engine and 4spd auto, front gvw is 4500lbs and there is no plow package but it does have the Z82 & Z85 options it also has the engine and trans. oil coolers, it's sporting a 4.10 rear with the G80 locking rear option as well.

    What else does this truck need to be suitable for hanging an 8.5' Fisher Vplow on it.

    I already have the plow so there is no option there.

    Will I be a happy camper or will I be pis_ed off when I lift the plow and see the front bumper touching the ground?????

    Also any other input on this truck would be appreciated, mpg, known problems or issues, etc.

    It's a great looking and well equipped truck and I'm choosing it over a 2001 F350 7.3 Powerstroke.

    Am I making the right decision? the F350 is so damn noisey and is more truck than I need.

    What should I do?
     
  2. Lbilawncare

    Lbilawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 144

    We have a 2001 & 2002 same model as you described. One has a 8.2 Boss V the other a 8.5 Western. They both sag a bit, the one with the Boss had the torsion bars turned and the problem went away. The Western would benefit from torsion bar adjustment or timbrens, but it isn't necessary. The only problem we encountered was overheating when driving with the plow up, no biggie. The 6.0 is a great engine, plenty of torque. I would recommend getting rid of the pizza cutters that are on it, but that's up to you.
     
  3. wfd44

    wfd44 Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 369

    We have an '02 2500 HD at the Fire Department. It had an 8'6" HD Fisher with a cutting edge (til we ditched the plow - long story). The truck was ordered with the plow package but you pretty much will have everything except the factory dash switch for a roof light. The balde did tend to set the truck on ts nose pretty well but then again we never plowed with it so the truck was never ballasted either. We only ever moved the blade around the yard before we gave it to DPW. Basically put some ballast in back, either Timbens or crank the bars up a bit in front and you should be good to go. The 2500HD is an awesome truck. The 6.0 is a great engine and the 4L80E is a world class trans. :nod:
     
  4. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    Thanks for the replies,
    Lbilawncare, what are you referring to when you say pizza cutters and why do you recommend getting rid of them?
    Do you mean the tires??
     
  5. TLS

    TLS PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    Great truck choice. Real maneuverable.

    Tires are personal choice. If tread depth is fine, there is nothing wrong with the size.

    How many miles?

    You will need balast. Especially with a V.
     
  6. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    It has 39k miles on it, it wasn't plowed or towed with which is a big plus!
    The book value around here is $23550 I pick it up Monday for Just under $18k
    It has brand new but generic tires on it which will have to go, any one ever heard of Westlake Telluride tires, they seem to grip very well in the rain but being that they're generic they're outta here. Any offers???

    Thinking about a set of Bridgestone Dueler Revo's 265/75/16, they're the highest rate AT tire at tirerack.com and have gotten high ratings from several other sources.

    As far as ballast goes Fisher recommends 400lbs, not a problem I've got 2 4'x4' sheets of diamond plate steel that weigh about 200lbs each, they should fit nicely and mostly behind the wheels.
    I just hope I'm not going to have a problem with it hanging so low that it won't stack the snow high enough!
    I'm already considering replacing the torsion bars with the next ones up, the ones that are on a 2500HD with a 4800lb front rating as opposed to my 4500lb rating.
     
  7. wfd44

    wfd44 Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 369

    I think he is referring to the 245/75R16 tires that come on 2500HD's. For some reason they aree not available with any other tire size (like 265/75R16's that come on Z71's and are available on all 1/2 tons).
     
  8. TLS

    TLS PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    BrianM,

    I wasn't aware that the Regular cabs came with 4500lb torsion bars. The front axle capacity is still 4800 on all GM IFS 3/4ton and up. But I never read the fine print on the torsion bars being 4500 vs 4800 on Ext and crew. Thanks for bringing this to light.

    Do you know if the VYU snowplow prep package gives me the 4800 lb bars?
     
  9. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    TLS,
    I'm not sure but I can tell you which ones I have and provide you with this chart.
    These are the ones in my truck with the 4500lb capacity
    15528963-LH (code GK) (Max torque 8615)
    15528964-RH (code GK) (Max torque 8615)
    as you can see in the chart below there are two torsion bars with higher carrying capacity.
    I'm guessing if you have the VYU option then you probably have these:
    15528965-LH (code GL) (Max torque 8782)
    15528966-RH (code GL) (Max torque 8782)
    but if you look under your truck you'll know for sure!
    Please let me know if I'm right.
    I guess I could get the 9054 ones but I think the truck will look like it's ready to launch to the moon :rolleyes:
    I do belive the 9054 tbars are for the 3500hd and the 8782 are for the 2500HD with the 4800lb front end and for the 3500.
    If anyone knows more about this please enlighten me.


    CHEVY TORSION BAR CODES AND RATINGS:

    15048307-LH (code XK) (Max torque 4553)
    15048308-RH (code XK) (Max torque 4553)

    15048309-LH (code XL) (Max torque 4626)
    15048310-RH (code XL) (Max torque 4626)

    15712407-LH (code WX) (Max torque 4863)
    15712408-RH (code WX) (Max torque 4863)

    15048311-LH (code XM) (Max torque 5638)
    15048312-RH (code XM) (Max torque 5638)

    15058267-LH (code YH) (Max torque 5913)
    15058268-RH (code YH) (Max torque 5913)

    15712409-LH (code WY) (Max torque 5913)
    15712410-RH (code WY) (Max torque 5913)

    15528957-LH (code GG) (Max torque 6709)
    15528958-RH (code GG) (Max torque 6709)

    15528959-LH (code GH) (Max torque 7161)
    15528960-RH (code GH) (Max torque 7161)

    15712411-LH (code WZ) (Max torque 7267)
    15712412-RH (code WZ) (Max torque 7267)

    15528963-LH (code GK) (Max torque 8615)
    15528964-RH (code GK) (Max torque 8615)

    15528965-LH (code GL) (Max torque 8782)
    15528966-RH (code GL) (Max torque 8782)

    15732338-LH (code XG) (Max torque 9054)
    15732339-RH (code XG) (Max torque 9054)
     
  10. ratlover

    ratlover PlowSite.com Addict
    from IL
    Messages: 1,325

    I have a reg cab with the 4800# bars. I believe a plow pre gets you the 4800# bars regardless what cab you have. Diesel also gets you the 4800# bars.

    I have a heavier front end(diesel/allsion) and am running a 9.5' fisher v blade. but I have the 4800# bars and run 1k or close to it in balast. Plows like an animal. Timbrens in the front and my nose drops less than 1.5" with the blade rasied. Caries it like a champ too. With the heavier bars and a lighter front end I would say a 8.5 would be no problem. 9.5 western or fisher v or maybe a blizzard if you wana go big. I've been eyeballing blizzard as my next blade.
     
  11. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    Ratlover,
    Can you get me the tbar codes off your truck? Gotta look on the tbar sticker.
    Or do you already know which ones they are in the chart I posted?
     
  12. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    Ratlover,
    According to Fishers ematch system they don't recommend the 9.5' v plow on your truck but oddly enough they do on mine with the lower rated frontend!!!
    Go figure!
     
  13. ratlover

    ratlover PlowSite.com Addict
    from IL
    Messages: 1,325

    becasue you have a lower weight on your front end with the gas motor and lighter trans. The allison weights a crap load(I moved it with the help of friends) When i bought the plow fisher said it was A OK with 1k of ballast? I originally ordered a 8.5 but after I ordered it I noticed on their sizing chart they listed a 9.5 as being ok so I called my dealer and payed the extra $ for the bigger blade :confused:

    You can lower your t bars till it sits were you want.

    2500hd and 3500 had the exact same fawr or so I thought :confused:

    Parking lot is nasty, I will try to remeber to get the # off the bars. I have a XGK in my option codes I believe, but my sticker says 4800# fawr. WTF :confused:

    is the XGK the option code for the 4500# bars? or is the gk designation something else?

    Confusion abounds :confused:
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2004
  14. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    They will either be GK or XG but not XGK.
    the left tbar should be something like LGK 15528963
    or LXG 15732338 like in the chart in my previous post.
    Let me know what you have.
     
  15. plowman777

    plowman777 Senior Member
    Messages: 227

    can you measure the width of the bars?..they gotta be fatter
     
  16. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    Sot Ratlover, which ones do you have?
     
  17. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    Back to the top!
     
  18. brian m

    brian m Member
    Messages: 57

    Ratlover,
    did you go on vacation?
     
  19. ratlover

    ratlover PlowSite.com Addict
    from IL
    Messages: 1,325

    Not by a computer exept durring the week. Too busy watching the Cards screw up :angry: and i forgot to check this weekend. I'll try to remember :eek:
     
  20. ratlover

    ratlover PlowSite.com Addict
    from IL
    Messages: 1,325

    Finnaly got it. 15528965 LGL it says. this is on a 03 2500HD reg cab plow preped duramax allison truck with a 4800# fawr.

    Wonder what the next highest bars are? I havent heard of a 3500HD? wonder if it chassi cab or what special out fit or what?