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Ontario info

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by GTS, Feb 6, 2007.

  1. GTS

    GTS Junior Member
    from ontario
    Messages: 8

    Hi all, I'm new to the site and have a few questions. I'm from eastern Ontario and am wondering how many events you bill your customers for seasonal contracts?
    Example: 4 months, 16 weeks x $40.00= $640.00 for the season.

    How much are you charging for salt and sand?

    From what I gather the going rate seems to be $125.00/hour on this site, would that be true for Ontario also.

    Thanks for any help
     
  2. Triple L

    Triple L PlowSite Fanatic
    from Canada
    Messages: 5,988

    Your hourly rate is out to lunch :nod: The most you will get is $70. I bill my trucks out for $65 to 70. Salt is variable. You may be able to get $20 per 40KG bag if your lucky. I quoted my seasonal contracts out at 30 to 40 events per season. I think 35 will work out real nice this winter. Just some thing to consider.
     
  3. GTS

    GTS Junior Member
    from ontario
    Messages: 8

    So if I were to charge a customer say $20 for their driveway for 30 events, I would give them a price of $600 for the season. Would salting labour would be additional, or would the 30 events per season cover that? (freezing rain, light snow not enough to plow)
    Then on top, I would charge for the cost of salt?

    Just trying to figure out for next year, Im in Kingston by the way.
     
  4. jhook

    jhook Senior Member
    Messages: 375

    For a commercial yard, I usually figure about 25 plows and price it that way. For driveways, I can get about $400/season, then I add another $100-$150 if they want the walks shovelled too. I don't think I could get much more than $400 for a driveway here. I am in North Bay. As far as hourly, I quit working by the hour years ago. I spend good money on my equipment so that I am reliable, fast and efficient. For some reason I always was going up against some guy with an old beater and a 7.5' blade and they were wondering why I charged more. I average aobut $120/hr now. I don't salt private driveways or sidewalks. I think it is too much hassle and it opens you up to even more liability. Commercial, ya, and we charge lots for it.
     
  5. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,202

    Contract for this area runs 5 months and some 5 1/2 months. Nov. 1 or 15 until April 15. If you are plowing on a 2" trigger you will get an average of 16 events. So far this year we have dropped the plow 5 times.

    Salting is usually per application on a fixed price per visit or included for some seasonal contracts.
     
  6. GTS

    GTS Junior Member
    from ontario
    Messages: 8

    Is there a weather website that has the average snowfalls per year for Ontario cities?

    Thanks for the answers guys!
     
  7. GTS

    GTS Junior Member
    from ontario
    Messages: 8

    What are you guys charging for salting?
    A 40 kilo bag at $20.00 works out to $0.50 a kilo right? or $0.23 a pound?
     
  8. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,202

    We buy bulk salt for .06/kilo.I don't price per kilo, I look at the lot and come up with a price. Here I would have a hard time pricing if I were to use bagged salt. We have a local bult salt depot that charges $83/metric ton with no account and $74 if you have an account. There are only a couple of local guys using tailgate spreaders and bagged salt.
     
  9. jhook

    jhook Senior Member
    Messages: 375

    Up here, we don't even use straight salt - I wouldn't know how to price it. We only use sand/salt mix. I guess it is too cold for the salt to do anything.

    As far as snow depths, I can't for the life of me find it right now. I get all my weather info from Environment Canada and The Weather Network online and I am sure there is a link to get the snow depths. In fact, I was looking at that about a month ago. Seems to be avoiding me right now, if I find it again, I will post it for you.
     
  10. R. Price

    R. Price Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I live in Kingston, ON and most ppl that I know charged for 15-20 times (events) for a season. But its hard getting contracts this year. last year the most you would of plowed was about 6 times, so no one wants to pay any money....
     
  11. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    Nice thread from almost 4 years ago. Seasonal for us is 5 months.