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On a Seasonal Commercial contract/agreement, do you include Ice Control?

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by LLM Ann Arbor, Dec 10, 2006.

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  1. I charge separately for each event

    46.2%
  2. I include it in the seasonal contract price

    38.5%
  3. I include a certain amount of visits in the seasonal price, then charge for each one over that

    15.4%
  1. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    Or, do you charge for that each time you salt.
     
  2. Bruce'sEx

    Bruce'sEx Senior Member
    Messages: 873

    Salting is extra on our contracts, all but one appartment building, which came through a friend of ours that does include the salt, so his customer wanted us to.
     
  3. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    Salt or Ice melt it is a service that I offer ala cart.

    Some places do not want salt unless it is a ice storm or the like, others only want salt/ice-melt on their sidewalks every time it snows.

    Price for plowing $XX.xx plus $XX.xx for salt.


    Ann, do you include it or do you charge separately?
     
  4. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    I dont salt yet as I dont have any commercial accounts as of yet. I do four commercials but the other guys do the salt work. Just asking for future reference.

    The resis I have I dont salt.
     
  5. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    then why did you post this if you do not know?



    LLM Ann Arbor
    "dont fool yourself into thinking ice management is included in a seasonal contract. Most Do Not include it. "



    Ann, Will you include it or Will you charge separately?
     
  6. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    Because the one person that responded to that statement said he included it and I thought perhaps I was wrong in what I had been told and heard over the years. So I thought Id do a poll.

    I am not sure how I will do it yet, and it will probably depend on what the client wants.

    Why do you feel it necessary to do an autopsy on every little thing I say here.

    Are you going to ruin this poll like Mark Oomkes ruined the how do you invoice poll?

    Christ sakes. You've already hassled some guy in Detroit on the phone thinking its me.

    Just cool it.
     
  7. KCAPXIS

    KCAPXIS Senior Member
    from NE PA.
    Messages: 143

    Ice -Snow.... Snow- Ice... at what point do you NOT use salt on ice because its snow that is packed hard?? or it started out as rain, turned to snow then turner to Ice, ( if you only service snow events and are not including proper Ice coverage, than your only giving your customer partial service.)

    We put down Treated Salt every time, if there is snow and or ice.
     
  8. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    You just ruined it your self?
    with all of you baggage.

    I was just asked a Q that was right on TOPIC with what you were asking.
    If you said that apples are purple in one post then say, no there pink in another then you should be questioned.
    It seams you asked this Q in the other thread too.
    Do you think the answers are going to be any Different here?
    Yea, I hassled some guy calling his phone lolol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    He posted it on the "NET" so I think he wants people to call? what do you think? I wanted to ask him a Q, what is so wrong with that?
    get over it, It was disconnected so I doubt I hassled anyone Ann.

    I still think it is you also... the similarities are uncanny...
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2006
  9. deere-cat

    deere-cat Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    Not everybody wants salt. I have small commercials that are gravel - no salt except near the entrances. Others want no snow or ice anywhere. In my opinion, just charge for the ones that want/need it, WHERE they need it, as a separate item on the contract, besides plowing. I don't think it matters whether we're talking about a seasonal contract or a per-event contract, the philosophy is the same. It works for me, anyway.
     
  10. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    Yeah. My names Lamar and I live on Cadiuex in Detroit yo.

    :rolleyes:

    Back on iggy for you dude. I gave ya a second chance but Im tired of it.
     
  11. deere-cat

    deere-cat Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    :D :D

    You guys crack me up!

    :D :D
     
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518



    How come every time he answers someones Q he can't?

    He always tries to redirect it or skirt the Q.

    He comes up with some Q. or statement that has nothing to do with the topic at hand?

    Then when you ask him about it he gets all defensive??? hummm

    HO-NOooooooooo Mr. bill I'm on Anns Iggy list LOlololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2006
  13. ECS

    ECS Senior Member
    Messages: 485

    LOL :D Guess that means no Christmas card for you. :D I told you he likes me better. :D :D
     
  14. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    I guess I'll have enough coal and sticks to burn this winter....;)

    You better be care full or Ann is going to come to your house for X-mass!

    Maybe he will bring his brown shovel along and educate you on it's finer points?:p LAMO!!!!!!
     
  15. ECS

    ECS Senior Member
    Messages: 485

    LOL :D I will put him to work shoveling for me so I don't have to get out of the truck. Lazy & overpaid. :D
     
  16. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,857

    SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    ANother poll I can vote in multiple times for each one of my personalities. :cool: :cool: :cool:

    Don't look now Ann\Lamar, I'm going to make my SIMA brethern proud once again. Time to start skewing the results.

    Yes

    No

    Yes

    No

    Whoops, this isn't a Yes\No question. Now we're really confused.

    PS I have some that are included in the seasonal contract and some that are ala carte.
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2006
  17. starc

    starc Senior Member
    Messages: 229

    I charge extra for salting, if I have to salt once in one day, I charge for one, if I have to salt three times in one day, I charge for three...
     
  18. tjlands

    tjlands Senior Member
    Messages: 575

    Seasonal Contracts salt and or ice-melt is included.
    Only commercial since we do no residential.