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NO SNOW--Do you Charge

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by coastaldc, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. coastaldc

    coastaldc Junior Member
    from 04401
    Messages: 10

    I am wondering if other contractors build a clause into their per push contracts that protect them when there is no snow for a period of time.
     
  2. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Yes,it's called seasonal contracts.
     
  3. snowguys

    snowguys Senior Member
    Messages: 708

    no you dont get paid its per push not season
     
  4. swtiih

    swtiih PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,179

    yes seasonal does help when snow is light
     
  5. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    I really hope you're kidding...
     
  6. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    He's figuring in reverse, Guys with seasonal contracts with a cap. So he's doing per push and if it don't snow they still owe him 5 pushes per month!
     
  7. NickT

    NickT Senior Member
    Messages: 707

    I ll take that!!!
     
  8. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    Here's a bill for not plowing your driveway.....But I did a great job.
     
  9. NickT

    NickT Senior Member
    Messages: 707

    I know it hasn't snowed for 6 weeks , but I was ready
     
  10. ManorD24

    ManorD24 Member
    Messages: 35

    I know of guys who do something similar for commercial accounts. They consider it a management or retainer fee. They charge a fee of one or two pushes and then deduct from the first time it snows. I think only once in the last 10 years have they not had a season to credit the fee towards an event.
     
  11. Herm Witte

    Herm Witte Senior Member
    Messages: 555

    Our per push clients pay for 12 pushes minimum. No cap. Only one winter in the thirty five years that I have been plowing was there less than 12 pushes.
     
  12. THEGOLDPRO

    THEGOLDPRO PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,136

    "So i hope you were happy with my non service, That will be $200 please"
     
  13. CGM Inc.

    CGM Inc. PlowSite Veteran
    from Ontario
    Messages: 3,590

    seasonal contract is the way to go...based on average events you really can't go wrong.
     
  14. Mabepossibly

    Mabepossibly Senior Member
    Messages: 107

    Hang on, I gotta go pay McDonalds for the big Mac I could have ate.
     
  15. coastaldc

    coastaldc Junior Member
    from 04401
    Messages: 10

    haha, glad I could amuse some of you. Reason for asking is a few other "professionals" in the area are doing just this. Mostly in Rockland...
     
  16. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    Companies with their name on the truck?
     
  17. Triple L

    Triple L PlowSite Fanatic
    from Canada
    Messages: 5,988

    Have you ever looked at it from the customers perspective? What whould you say if you were them?
     
  18. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    For anyone that has a problem with a retention fee system. Don't knock it, there are advantages for the customer over seasonal pricing. Usually a retention fee is a lot lower then a monthly contract, which means if you get a light winter, the customer is paying less then if they had went seasonal and it still secures some monthly income for the contractor. It gets applied to the monthly bill anyways, and most good contractors well carry it forward for the season, so if it didn't snow in October but snowed a bunch in November, the fee you collect in October gets applied to Novembers bill. Also when we do a retention fee, we usually make it the equivalent of one push for the month and offer a minor discount for a customer who signs up with a retention amount, usually a 5% reduction on the hourly cost. It is a good alternative for customers that don't wish to do seasonal/monthly contracts.
     
  19. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    For everyone who is knocking retention fees, how do you deal with seasonal contracts? Do you apologize when you have no snow for a month and yet collect a check?
     
  20. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    Look at it this way, a retention fee is the compromise between a contractor that wants seasonal and a customer that wants per push/hourly