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Newbie In a Pinch

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by littlehammer, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. littlehammer

    littlehammer Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Title pretty much says it all! I just bought a used unimount for 2002 Dodge Dakota quad cab and got a bird's nest of wiring free with purchase. I'm not sure what kind of truck the plow was on before I got it but I want to get all new wiring for the plow. Western's website doesn't specifically list a harness kit or hydraulics box kit? for that year of dakota, but it does list a truckside mount for it. So I'm wondering if I need the kits that are listed for 1997 and later Dakotas which are harness 61590 and hydraulics 56365. If someone could let me know if i'm heading in the right direction, and if i'm not maybe point me differently. Thanks.
     
  2. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    You want to replace every stitch of wiring both truck and plow side? Doing so is a little spendy if not all needed. If the truck side control harness and battery harness is in good shape you'd just need the headlight adapter harness to mate to the new application if it's different than the old one. Check the adapter harness for any tags and part #'s. May get lucky. We'll get you what you need.
     
  3. PLOWMAN45

    PLOWMAN45 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,830

    did you try your dealer to see if he can clean it up
     
  4. littlehammer

    littlehammer Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Well looking on Western's website the closests dealer is about 1 1/2 hours away and if I can get away with not having to go there then that's what I'm hoping for. So from what you are saying the only thing that is vehicle specific is the headlight adapter, the rest of the wiring is basically uiniversal?
     
  5. PLOWMAN45

    PLOWMAN45 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,830

    did you try a serivce station or dealer ?
     
  6. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Correct. If the wiring is in good shape then you simply need the correct vehicle specific headlight adapter harness for your Dakota.
     
  7. littlehammer

    littlehammer Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    And is the only place to get this is a Western dealer? I really don't live close to a dealer and don't want to drive to get a part and have it not work and have to take it back a bunch of times.
     
  8. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Either a dealer or online. You're only real choices.
     
  9. littlehammer

    littlehammer Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Do you know a site online that should have these? Is this called something else, what is the diferrence between a headlight adapter kit, a relay harness kit, vehicle cable assembly?
     
  10. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    Have you looked into the mount? you know Western only lists a a mid weight ultramount for your truck.
     
  11. littlehammer

    littlehammer Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    i have a unimount truck mount that I'm going to try to fabricate to make work, you can also get a ultramount and unimount conversion kit. We'll see how it goes, I think I'm more concerned about all the wiring for it.
     
  12. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    Yes you can.
     
  13. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Technical term is "headlamp plug in harness". As thats what you need and is the only section of the plow wiring that's vehicle specific.

    For ordering online these are good choices. Central Parts or Equipment Specialists

    But you first have to determine which plug in harness part # you need as I described in your other thread.
     
  14. littlehammer

    littlehammer Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    I didn't see any vehicle specific headlamp plug in harnesses on these websites, i take it you must have to order from dealer. When you were talking about the 2 different colored wire choices...are those related to certain years or models or did you pull those out of a hat. I believe my truck has HB5 headlights and no daytime running lights(if that helps anything)
     
  15. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    What you see would be partial wiring kits and such. Unless you know where to find them (or you have the paper cheat sheets) you won't see the individual components that are included in those kits...such as the plug in harness's for example.

    Yes the wire placement is due to the headlamp system change the Dodges went through during the '01 model year. During that year they can be either positive or negative common on the light system, so you have to identify which one you have to know what harness your truck requires. Also makes a difference if it's DRL equipped or not.
     
  16. littlehammer

    littlehammer Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    The dealer has a complete lighting harness for $263.00, is that a decent deal? I think I might have the control harness pretty much intact and can get replacement pieces for that.
     
  17. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Depends on if you need it all or not. If you only need the plug in harness why buy more than you need? The plug in is only a little over a $100.