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new vehicle for residentials

Discussion in 'Equipment, Tools & Vehicle Pictures' started by scooled101, Jan 20, 2009.

  1. scooled101

    scooled101 Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 112

    i was surfing a little and I came across this company they sell a few different types of tuck type things and you can put a lot of different attachments on the to

    http://www.holder.on.ca/inst_tractor_c988.html

    Anyone use one of these
     
  2. NICHOLS LANDSCA

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,310

    Alot of the munis use them they aren't cheap.
     
  3. scooled101

    scooled101 Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 112

    how would these compare to the bobcat
     
  4. seventwenty

    seventwenty Member
    Messages: 37

    I can't imagine those holders are cheap, easily more than the cost of a brand new skid. The city uses them around here for sidewalks usually and there was a member on here that had one with a blower and did residentials. Put the Holder in a parking lot with a skid steer and the skid would run circles around it I'm sure, I'd rather have a bobcat with remote control...

    http://www.bobcat.com/loaders/remote_control
     
  5. Alpha Property

    Alpha Property Senior Member
    Messages: 668

    So you would rather stand outside in the snow and cold to operate the skid, or be inside a closed cab with heat?
     
  6. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH PlowSite.com Addict
    from pa
    Messages: 1,132

    Who said anything about standing in the cold. I'd be in the house with a remote camera running it from my office chair. :D
     
  7. Alpha Property

    Alpha Property Senior Member
    Messages: 668

    lol yea i guess that sounds like a pritty good plan
     
  8. scooled101

    scooled101 Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 112

    sorry let me rephrase this the tool cat That bobcat makes?
     
  9. affekonig

    affekonig Senior Member
    Messages: 909

    We had one of these when I worked for the City of Boulder, CO. We got it brand new and it was a POS. It would break often and it wasn't very user friendly. It had a bunch of attachments (plow, brush mower, mower, sweeper), but just wasn't a great machine. It was between that and the Toolcat, and they chose the Holder. They ended up replacing it this past year with a Toolcat. Too bad I don't work there anymore...
     
  10. riverwalkland

    riverwalkland Senior Member
    Messages: 401

    That thing does not really compare to a bobcat. The plows on them are usually 4 feet wide. They don't have zero turning radius. They cost 40k and more sometimes new. They are pretty much specifically for sidewalks. They have pretty weak salt capacity too. They can run a vplow, straightblade, blower, sweeper etc but a skid or small truck would make much more sense, and cost half as much
     
  11. Neige

    Neige Sponsor
    Messages: 2,197

    Like its been said, muni got them to replace the Bombardier sidewalk cleaners, as a year round machine. Would be a total waste of time on driveways. Try this instead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuI9zcWKs2Q
     
  12. PTSolutions

    PTSolutions PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,533

    u guys in canada are blower crazy!! im not to sure we would be allowed to run that kind of equipment on the streets here in my city. everyone is still using trucks and plows.
     
  13. Winter Land Man

    Winter Land Man Senior Member
    Messages: 723

    For the Holder C500 (the model before the 9700) back in 1989, my town paid over $70,000 with a flail mower, Cote snowplow, v-plow, snowblower, Bryant Spreader, and a Johnston Sweeper. My Dad was working for the town at the time, and they were using a Kubota Narrow Series tractor (I think)... it was Kubota at least, and my Dad and some other town workers voted against the Holder due to price, since you could buy a few Kubota tractors for that price.. The DPW director was pissed off. They ended up with the Holder anyways. They had to work on the flail mower after using it only a couple hours. Holder has come a long way since then, though.
     
  14. mgg1005

    mgg1005 Junior Member
    Messages: 16

    My brother runs one of those for the city DPW. They have a straight blade, V blade and a blower for it they use it to do sidewalks. They cost around $80,000 he said, its a few years old now.
     
  15. justme-

    justme- 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,138

    My City has one or two too- basically just for plowing/sanding sidewalks. Usually the SW48's are being used instead- seems they get more sidewalk cleared in the same time...
     
  16. master hack

    master hack Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    holder tractors

    i work on holder tractors for a municipality and can give you all the pros & cons you want. gimme some questions
     
  17. bossplwr09

    bossplwr09 Member
    Messages: 37

    From what i have heard from our local municipality they hated theirs.. Lack of suspension gave the operator a very rough ride, and broke frequently.. They traded up to a Toolcat and love it!
     
  18. 87chevy

    87chevy Senior Member
    Messages: 557

    These are essentially the same as a Trackless, aren't they?
     
  19. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,544

    wat are the pros and cons?:D
     
  20. Humvee27

    Humvee27 Senior Member
    Messages: 361

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by master hack
    i work on holder tractors for a municipality and can give you all the pros & cons you want. gimme some questions

    wat are the pros and cons?

    yeah, what he said....:laughing::laughing::popcorn::popcorn: