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New Truck or New Plow or both?

Discussion in 'Residential Snow Removal' started by plow/truck, Dec 25, 2011.

  1. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    We have a small community that has a few volunteers that drive the plow. I'm the one that mostly works on this beast and everyone wants to get something better :confused:.
    Anyway we have a `71 3/4 ton 4x4 ford long bed.
    After some looking, it looks like we have the perfect truck. So I'm thinking money would be better spent on a new plow and keep some cash for a crate motor if something happens.

    With that said- what are the better plows I should be looking at?
     
  2. elecblu

    elecblu Member
    Messages: 79

    BOSS all the way. An 8'2" power V. If money is tight, I'd look for a good used one. You will not be sorry.
     
  3. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    I'll look at these, but what I noticed on western, is they dont list a 71 truck! Not sure about the others.
     
  4. jb1390

    jb1390 Senior Member
    Messages: 710

    You would need to modify the mount.....if it were me, you are trying to save cash by having an old truck. Why invest in a new plow? You can save plenty there too. I would never put a brand new plow on that truck. You'd probably be better taking the money and finding a half decent used setup complete, and keep the other truck as a backup. JMO
     
  5. White Gardens

    White Gardens 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,665

    How many hours does the truck get used after each storm?

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  6. IMAGE

    IMAGE Sponsor
    Messages: 1,741

    If you have say $10k you can get a pretty nice setup from around 2000ish time frame or slightly newwer. It will likely still have issues and need work just like any other used plow rig.
     
  7. exmark1

    exmark1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,321

    Curious what research you did that tells you a 1971 Ford is the perfect truck...?

    Maybe for scrap metal but if you are doing plowing and it needs to be reliable I would upgrade the truck as well just my thought
     
  8. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    Our 20year western is, well, old. It has his problems and parts are getting hard to find. Last year we sent the pump out to be rebuilt, and it's still sucks.
    When its down they think of the truck as a whole and new truck it's going to fix my 20 year old plow. It will only make driving it more comfy.
     
  9. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    About 8 hours. Last year we had 16 hours total all year.

    This year we are already at 16- 20 hours.
     
  10. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    I agree, this is why we should look into just a new plow.
     
  11. leolkfrm

    leolkfrm PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,428

    for the money you have you should be able to pickup up a newer setup....plow and truck, sell the old one!
     
  12. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    We only use this truck for plowing, and watering the roads, otherwise it sits. It hasn't been licensed in over 20 years.

    BTW I menat to say `73. What research? Long wheel base is desirable, It has the NP205, the front end is Leaf spring that can handle weight & the abuse of plowing.

    Since this is a community truck it's driven like a rental, except we don't deduct for dings. :D
    We plow a mountain community and driveways, when this slides off to the ditch no big deal.

    I've looked into using a 97 ford Bronco- from what I remember they don't recommend them for a 8'6" Pro plow.
    3/4 ton Suburbans are good, but if the rear quarter panel hits a tree, knocks out window bends the metal- it's a very expensive fix. You hit the same tree with my truck no big deal. Beds are everywhere and we can fix it - and it's not a have to fix problem like the suburban would be. If the suburban is not fixed it's a POS and not worth more so than our current truck.

    Reliable? The 20 year old western plow is our biggest let down.

    You have a better truck in mind? I'll consider it. But if we get a new truck I don't think the 20 year old plow is going to satisfy anything.

    If we decide to license our current truck we can get the classic car license for a 5 year registration for $5 and no emissions test.

    The new ones will be allot more and emissions will be required if licensed.
     
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2011
  13. hlntoiz

    hlntoiz Senior Member
    from NW, CT
    Messages: 588

    He is in New Mexico, why would he need a V?


    This would be my suggestion. Maybe a 1 ton dump that can be used all year round. Even if it costs you a little more $$ you will recoup the cost though out the whole year. These trucks are a dime a dozen. All set up ready to go for you.
     
  14. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    I like this idea! My concern is we put the truck before the plow. This old cable operated plow would require some fabrication to the new truck, and afterwords we'd still be unhappy.
    What If we get a new plow and use it for a year or two, then upgrade to a truck?

    I have a quote for a Western Pro Plus @ ~6K plus instillation (we'll do ourself).
     
  15. hlntoiz

    hlntoiz Senior Member
    from NW, CT
    Messages: 588

    You can find a complete package for probably $6-10k Why are you going to spend 6k on a plow you may use 2 times a year? IMO not a smart move. The truck is more important.
     
  16. plowguy43

    plowguy43 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,269

    If the truck is fine, and its the plow causing the issue's, I'd convert from a cable setup to a Electric/Hydraulic Setup.

    You can just buy an SEHP or Insta-Act pump, wiring harness, and controller and be good to go. All can be found on ebay and relatively cheap compared to buying a new (er) truck.
     
  17. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    What is a good truck to look at?
     
  18. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    I guess I like the old truck, you just get in and go. No sensors to go bad, no air bags, ECU, EGR,Cam Angle sensors, seat belt warning etc. Everything is easy to get to making the repairs are a snap.
    If something quits, you just get another part. No code reader required.

    I can't understand why someone would sell their plow truck with a plow, because I know why I want to sell our plow.
    First off, buying a used plow in these parts isn't going to be easy, and will require a vote to spent the money, and that takes time.
    I did this with another truck. I found a 74 complete running truck for like $500. By the time everyone said it was ok to spent the money - GONE. This truck would have given us a spare of everything!

    It's really frustrating, so by the time I find a truck with a plow worth buying, calling, looking at it etc. will take a while and most likely will be sold again, plus we will need to add in the shipping cost assuming I get in up North.
    I don't think the used plow truck will be without it's faults anyway.
    With the new plow we can always put it on another truck later. Trucks are on every corner here.

    But I'm about to just give up now.... This is very time consuming and I'm going to get beat up. Next week Ill be at work and will have less time to search for trucks and plows.

    Someone said I should look into upgrading our pump with a newer style. I'll look into this option for sure.
     
  19. oldmankent

    oldmankent PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,318

    I'd keep the truck. Like you said, simple and easy to fix. With multiple users it isn't the end of the world if it gets killed. I would look for a newer used plow. you'll have to modify the mount I'd imagine. If you are doing roads, I guess trip edge is better, but I do like full trip because you can see the plow trip and let up. I wouldnt' bother with a V.
     
  20. plow/truck

    plow/truck Member
    Messages: 57

    Thanks Kent, I'm alos looking to upgrade our plow controls, but Western isn't cooperating. I called a dealer in another state and was promised a call back. That was early today.