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New to Liquid Deicing

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by I RocDuP I, Dec 9, 2015.

  1. I RocDuP I

    I RocDuP I Member
    Messages: 40

    Hey guys I have a few questions for you. Ive worked for the same guy for the last 5 years now and he recently just gave me a proposal. He asked me if I would consider putting a liquid deicing machine in the back of my truck. Said its an all electric setup. I have a 2015 F250 Gas 4 door, with a 8' Hiniker in the front of it. Can this truck handle the weight of it, how destructive is it compared to a regular spreader, and what is adequate compensation, per hour or gallons applied?

  2. JustJeff

    JustJeff PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,933

    Can't tell you about how corrosive it is first hand. But I get 20.00 per hour more when I'm salting vs. plowing. Don't know if this is the norm though. And you'd be using HIS equipment, correct? He might not pay you more per hour at all if this is the case, but you would probably get a lot more hours, so it would still be beneficial to you.

    Edit: After reading Brian's post below, I would also add air bags in the rear if I were you. I added them for mine as my spreader weights about 3,500 lbs. when loaded. It helps A LOT.
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2015
  3. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    I can't help you with pricing but I would think you'd get more. As far as weight goes our liquid weighs right around 11lbs per gallon, we run a 300 gallon tank with a Sotterra electric pump and with the tank full, platform everything weighs in around 3700lbs. We run that set up in our 06 F250 with beefed up rear springs and a 8.6 XV hanging off the front. I'm sure it's over loaded, at least for the first few stops it makes. Off topic...what are you getting for fuel mileage in that truck, our 2016 is getting 9.5-9.7 thanks
  4. wenzelosllc

    wenzelosllc Senior Member
    Messages: 391

    Typically it should be less corrosive as long as you're not spilling it all over when you are filling the tank.

    As a sub I don't know what to charge but, at the seminar I went to on this topic last week, most guys were getting around $100/Acre and that's averaging about 20gal/Acre.

    Not sure how your guy runs things but usually liquid is applied before storms so you may be getting about a third more time in for application then follow up with regular plowing. Post treatment is common as well and could add a few minutes to each site, depending on size.

    I have the SuperCab version of the 2015 and I get about 12MPG so far. Mostly highway use though.
  5. 86 CJ

    86 CJ Senior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 265

    We run these Gas Sprayer setups in our trucks with 275g totes and have had no issues with weight staying local to accounts. I run a 2009 F250 Quad C Diesel with leveling kit front and rear. It squats some when tote is full, but the goal is to empty it on site and make some $$ :drinkup: Then re-fill if needed. You should be fine not going over 300g in that truck and taking it easy.

    As far as compensation goes, if its his equipment then you should be getting paid the same as you would to spread salt, but pushing a button to drop liquid. You are going to average around 100g /acre compared to 600-800lbs of Rocks Salt per acre

    As far as corrosion goes, I see no difference if you wash the truck after every storm top and bottom, we use FLIUDFILM on out equipment underneath before every season, also spray blowers every storm, it really helps to protect.

    Hope this helps:D

    2014 Sprayer Build.jpg
  6. AG09

    AG09 Senior Member
    Messages: 159

    Did you build this set up or buy it?
  7. 86 CJ

    86 CJ Senior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 265

    We build our own setups and help out local contractors looking to get in Liquids in the MD area. We don't promote on this website, but feel free to PM me if you have any questions or check out our deicepatrol website.
  8. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,396

    How can you say this without knowing what liquids he will be using?

    What if they're using mag chloride? Even calcium is far more corrosive--spilled or not--than sodium.
  9. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    This is true. Our first year using liquids we ran a cocktail that had more calcium and the back half of one of our truck frames looked 10 years old. The stuff we use now has a corrosive inhibitor mixed in and is not as hard on the truck.