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New Skid Steer Loader

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by bluejlandscaper, Dec 24, 2014.

  1. bluejlandscaper

    bluejlandscaper Member
    Messages: 69

    Looking to buy a new skid steer loader. Looking at Bobcat M650, Kubota SSV75 (Won't be available until late spring 2015) and JCB 280. All machines are about 74 HP,with 2800 lbs operating capacity. Want it equipped with joy stick controls, two speed transmission, possible hi-flow hydraulics and turf type tires instead of standard R4 tires, on skids. (Much better traction plowing with turf type tires, as all my New Holland tractors have the loaded, turf type tires, instead of the R4's). Will be either mounting a 10' ProTec pusher or a 10' Kage system, on the new skid.
    I was most impressed with the JCB unit and it's visibility. You're not sitting in a cage, as with the Bobcat and Kubota machines. Also the side entry door on the JCB is so much easier to enter the machine, than the other two. Not seeing too many JCB wheeled units out there, I wondering if anyone out there has had any experience with the JCB, skid steer?
     
  2. rob_cook2001

    rob_cook2001 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,181

    Not a jcb fan at all. The cab design is cool though.
     
  3. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    I rented one of the first JCB skidsteers way back when. Late 90's? So my opinion is dated.

    I hated it. I'm 6'3" and had a heck of a time climbing in and out of it. I hated the one arm because it throws off your balance going over curbs, bumps, etc.

    I think they stopped making them and redesigned them, but that was enough experience for me.

    I also have a JCB 212SU that has worked well for me, but parts availability is not always the greatest.
     
  4. Triple L

    Triple L PlowSite Fanatic
    from Canada
    Messages: 5,988

    I test drove one this fall... I absolutely love the design and machine, except I felt the controls were very unresponsive and laggy even on the most sensitive setting when compared to my bobcat 650... that being said I'll probably buy one as my next machine simply because the cab and being able to climb out when the boom slightly raised
     
  5. brasski

    brasski Member
    Messages: 50

    Not a JCB fan we had a couple backhoes years ago to push snow and they rust bad and getting parts sucks. Think about resale unless your going to keep it forever Bobcat or even Cat will have the best and easiest resale.
     
  6. gd8boltman

    gd8boltman Senior Member
    Messages: 326

    We like the JCB, honestly in my

    own use, overall I have noticed only minor differences between all the various brands (Case, Bobcat, Cat and New Hollands). In our opinion JCB offers the best visibility, access, and best overall value for us. Dealer support should be a major factor in your decision, our experience overall has been excellent, and good luck with your decision, they are all fine brands.
     
  7. Flawless440

    Flawless440 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,543

    Love our Bobcat and service..
     
  8. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,039

    It's all about dealer support, buy one that you have a close dealer
     
  9. bluejlandscaper

    bluejlandscaper Member
    Messages: 69

    Thanks for your comments, everyone. I'm waiting for a demo of the JCB and BobCat. No snow in over two weeks here and nothing in the immediate forecast either. Not like last year with a lot of plowing events, in December.
    As far as dealer support goes, all three dealers, have great support out there and I have dealt with both, BobCat and Kubota, already.
    The Cat dealer is about 40 miles away, now and they are not really interested in the little contractor, anymore Just the biggies, that have many Cat machines. I know as I have a Cat D3, dozer and had a Cat crawler loader, years ago.
    This week I'm going to meet with a contractor that has several JCB skidsteers and compact track loaders, in his fleet. In a quick phone conversation, last week, with the equipment manager, he stated they have tried all the major brands in the past, as they upgrade every three or four years, they have a great liking for the JCB units. He also said their operators love them! And they are very pleased with the dealer support. No parts problems as a couple responders have stated in their replies to my post.
    I'll keep you posted.
     
  10. exclusive

    exclusive Member
    Messages: 91

    Hey I leased a jcb 280 this oct with all the goodies and I must say I love everything about this skid side door visibility power can room I'm 6 foot and 300 lbs and I can stretch out in there and skid before this was a 650 bobcat I hated it there joystick suck in bobcat hope this helps
     
  11. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,506

    What kind of work did you do with it?
     
  12. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    It wasn't a class in how to use punctuation.
     
  13. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,506


    Period!!
     
  14. bluejlandscaper

    bluejlandscaper Member
    Messages: 69

    I'm glad that you like your machine. Do you use it , snow plowing, not that we've had that much snow to plow this year, so far?
     
  15. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,506

    I'm guessing by the deafening silence, he didn't do much with it. Except go in and out of the door comfortably. That door thing seems gimmicky to me. I don't know if JCB makes a good skid steer or not, but buying something because of the door?? Not me.
     
  16. bluejlandscaper

    bluejlandscaper Member
    Messages: 69

    Appreciate your comments. It's not just about the entry door. I did some viewing on YouTube last night. There are two videos about, using a JCB skidsteer loader from your neck of the woods, plowing snow. One is from the Town of Brookfield, WI, in the South East part and the other is from Birchwood Landscaping & Snowplowing in Southern WI. Maybe you know the Town or the contractor. The owner of the company is very happy with his JCB skidsteer loaders. He owns several wheeled units and stated that he rents 20+ units for winter plowing. According to his report he does most of his plowing with the JCB skidsteers. He also states that his accident rate has decreased by 75% since he started using the JCB skids. His operators state that the visibility in the JCB skids, is better than any other skidsteer on the market. He is pleased with the machine's performance, ease of maintenance and low cost of operation. Also the easy entry door is a big plus, along with the roomier cab, compared to other skidsteer models, he's used in the past.
    I like his statements and comments. He uses the machines in his business and is totally satisfied with them.

    Thumbs Up For the JCB Skidsteers!
     
  17. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,660

    I've said for a long time that I don't like anything jcb builds. That being said if you're getting some good support from your dealer and you are comfortable operating it then it's probably going to be a good buy for you. Most people don't take into account that they aren't going to be the one's spend 6 8 10 hours in it plowing or moving material or whatever. Good luck with your new machine and hopefully it'll snow so you can put it to work
     
  18. usmcdroach

    usmcdroach Member
    Messages: 60

    It's a nice machine until you put to much weight on one side of the bucket or try to pry on something and really screw up the 1 lift arm. I just bought a new cat wheeled machine and I tried out a jcb. I could see many repair bills with the jcb. The lift arm will tilt easily to one side so if you need the bucket flat or forks flat with a load in the air your screwed. As for the visibility my cat came with the upgraded touch screen and back up cam. Not only can you see when going back but can easily turn it to always on and see what's going on behind you
     
  19. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,506

    I tried to search YouTube for JCB skids doing some real world digging or hard work, because I suspected that one arm deal would bend or break if stressed to one side. I couldn't find any videos other than the infomercial ones where the guys are obviously being paid for saying good things about them. I do realize that all brands have those videos out but also many others of just private owners doing some real work with them. I've had many many jobs with my Bobcat machines to where you are prying with a corner of the bucket to lift or loosen buried objects. Lifts the whole machine off the ground other than one front wheel sometimes. I wouldn't want to try that with the JCB. If anyone can prove me wrong I'm willing to listen...
     
  20. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    I didn't bend it, but even if you're not going straight into a pile of dirt, the one arm will cause the machine to lift crooked\off center.

    I know I've hit stuff hard enough to wonder if I bent the arms on my Bobcat, and haven't.

    I'm interested in a review since my experience was almost 15 yeas ago. I'm assuming that since Triple L\Chad said he loved the side door they must have redesigned that. He's about the same height or taller than I am and I thought it sucked.