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New Ram PTO use question

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by JCPM, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. JCPM

    JCPM Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 320

    I just purchased a new 3500 Ram with the Cummins and heavy duty Aisin 6 speed auto and it came with the pto installed from the factory. Has anyone used this to run a hydraulic salt spreader. I haven't taken delivery on it yet so I haven't really looked at it closely to see what kind of plumbing might be required. This is my first Dodge so I'm not too familiar them as a whole so any advice would be much appreciated.
     
  2. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,535

    PTO equipped or PTO ready?

    I thought PTO had to be sized for any given application. Then again I'm a Ford guy.
     
  3. JCPM

    JCPM Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 320

    Equiped. I already agreed to buy the truck before I noticed the pto switch on the dash. My sales rep told me he orders all of the cab and chassis models pto equipped because it's so much cheaper to do so from the factory rather than added it afterwards.
     
  4. Triple L

    Triple L PlowSite Fanatic
    from Canada
    Messages: 5,988

    Why do I think the sales rep doesn't know what he's talking about....

    Just cause it has the switch on the dash doesn't mean anything...

    My gm has the switch too, looks cool but does nothing

    I highly doubt the truck has a pto pump and reservoir from the factory and all you have to do is add the lines...

    Either way your gonna have to be driving or in neutral for anything to work, only ford has that solved... unless it's a clutch pump
     
  5. JCPM

    JCPM Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 320

    Like I said I don't know anything about these units. It wasnt a make or break feature when I was shopping so if it's not actually "equiped" than its not a big deal. I'm just looking for some advice from anyone who has one and uses it and what it's capabilities are
     
  6. A Man

    A Man Senior Member
    Messages: 338

    Pto and the pump are two different things. Unlikely but possible it has the pto installed but no pump yet.
     
  7. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,977

    Huh?......
     
  8. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,574



    ram uses the cruise control to run the pto.
    some are even enabled at the factory, automatics)
    and the manuals need to have a ground wire connected.

    when parked, turn on the cruise.
    hit set.
    it will idle up to 1k.
    you can now use the accel or decell to speed up or slow down the pto..
    but it only workers when parked.

    OR....seeing as you have a switch...
    A after market pto because the factory pto doesn't work when moving or in N
    yes, it will work when moving or parked.

    ps because it has a pto take off, doesn't mean a hydraulic pump has been attached to it.,

    you'll set up the hydros when you buy/get the spreader.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2015
  9. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,574

    exactly...
     
  10. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,876

    I'm confused.

    If it's PTO equipped, to me that means the PTO shaft is coming out the transmission. Switch and wiring are present.

    AFAIK, there isn't a truck manufacturer in the world that builds a truck with a pump on the PTO because every application is different. Spartan Motors might for fire apparatus. Might.
     
  11. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,876

    http://www.dodge.com/bodybuilder/2011/docs/cc/dddppto.pdf

    Parker-Chelsea has a Stored Energy Management System that will operate plows, etc.
     
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,574

    Depends.

    My truck doesn't have a "PTO" bolted to the T-case ,
    But ram considers it to have the PTO "option".

    It could have a gear drive then a pump bolted to it, more than one wy to skin the cat

    The switch is there and the wiring,
    The cruise control is also the set throttle for the PTO.

    You will need the additional stuff that the op has if you want the PTO to function while moving.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2015
  13. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,876

    Which is why I said PTO equipped. Not PTO option.
     
  14. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,535

    Excuse me guys, he's talking about a new 2015, not old trucks like urs. Besides the new Rams are ran off the trans not the T-case.

    Besides his original question is what does he need to accomplish to run central hydraulics
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2015
  15. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,876

    Central hydros are not run off a PTO.

    PS Mine is a '14.
     
  16. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,535

    That was a trick statement not that I know enough about it anyways.... Mines a 14, almost two model years old.
     
  17. derekslawncare

    derekslawncare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,003

    They ABSOLUTELY ARE. My 2012 F550 has cent. hydraulics that run off the pto on the transmission. My hooklift wouldn't work very well w/o it.
     
  18. Triple L

    Triple L PlowSite Fanatic
    from Canada
    Messages: 5,988

    That's actually a super cool system, never seen anything like that, wonder how long you can move something before the accumulator runs out and you have to put the truck in neutral or start driving again?
     
  19. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,876

    I guess you are correct.

    I was considering central hydraulics as being synonymous with a clutch pump.
     
  20. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,535

    It's a Ford thing, welcome back.