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new plow need opinions

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by james1115, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. james1115

    james1115 Member
    from CT
    Messages: 81

    Hey guys I am in the market for a new plow. I am leaning toward the boss 8.2vxt but I have never had one before. I have a 2008 dodge ram 2500 quad cab sb diesel. I was looking at the meyers super v also but I heard a few bad reviews from people about that plow compared to the boss. Also around me is a fisher dealer, a snow dogg dealer, and a hikiker dealer. I have been running a blizzard 810 for the last 7 years and wanted to try my hands at a v plow. Anmy thoughts and opinions are greatly appreciated as I want to hear as much as I can before I go spend almost $6K.
    thanks
     
  2. Banksy

    Banksy PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,113

    Boss or Fisher out of your choices. When the day comes that I need a new plow, I'm going with a Boss from Equipment Specialists in Virginia.
     
  3. james1115

    james1115 Member
    from CT
    Messages: 81

    yeah I am leaning toward the Boss, I can get it installed for $5450. What about the fisher v how are they?
     
  4. mnglocker

    mnglocker Senior Member
    Messages: 923

    Boss or FIsher out of those choices.

    Fisher will be quicker to mount and dismount if that's any value to you.
     
  5. james1115

    james1115 Member
    from CT
    Messages: 81

    Is the fisher v as good as the boss?
     
  6. mnglocker

    mnglocker Senior Member
    Messages: 923

    Boss is known for their awesome customer service, that being said, I have yet to use customer service for my 2009 Western D.D. MVP. (knock on wood)

    Pro
    The boss has the high wings to really cast the snow far and wide, but it won't trip for crap unless the blade is straight.

    Pro
    The Boss is stupid simple and has less **** to break.

    Con
    The Boss needs pro-locks to be worth **** for back dragging. The fisher's hydraulics keep the blades from flopping forward while back dragging by design out of the box.

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    Pro
    The Fisher has trip edges. (a plus in my book) They work in all blade positions and don't dump the whole plow load of snow.

    Pro
    The fishstick control is also faster for moving the plow around, being that it has more programmed functions and it also has a theft prevention feature that can code your plowside to your control side, so someone else can't roll up and hook up to your plow and get it to function.

    Pro
    The fisher will hook onto the truck faster and has adjustable feet on the plowside so that the plow frame matches to the truck frame.

    Con
    The DD product are usually more $$$ out of the box.
     
  7. mnglocker

    mnglocker Senior Member
    Messages: 923

    All that being said, unless you're dealing with really deep 12"+ snow depths at a hit. (country drives drifted over or mountain/lake effect type snows) look at a wide out. They are WAY faster for open areas.
     
  8. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,033

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  9. mnglocker

    mnglocker Senior Member
    Messages: 923

    Typically in order for a trip blade plow to trip with the blade in "V" or "scoop" you need to overcome the hydraulic pressure reliefs and the blade needs to have both left and right sides parallel in line. The trip action of a trip blade vs. a trip edge is violent in comparison.

    The Fisher/Western V's have an independent trip edge for either side allowing them to move freely of each other.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2011
  10. mnglocker

    mnglocker Senior Member
    Messages: 923

    I should also add between the two, The Fisher is a chain lift, the Boss a hydro lift.

    The Fisher will stack higher and can be short chained easily in the event of a failure.

    The Boss won't bounce around as much while transporting, but in the event of a hydro failure you've got to get the pin hole lined up right.
     
  11. My bowtie

    My bowtie Senior Member
    Messages: 279

    Hiniker VF, Simple on and off, trip edge, back drags and stacks great, Great customer support.

    I have used a friends boss and wasnt impressed.

    Like the fisher, but dont make them in a ploy..dont know why, and the SS V is WAY over priced.
     
  12. STRONGARM

    STRONGARM Senior Member
    Messages: 258

    I have tried a bunch of plows, myer, western, snoway... By FAR the wide out is the way to go. Fisher has the same design as the western and it is the best plow I've ever used. Beats any V I\ve had. Very simple on/off, simple to service and havent had any issues with any western I've had over the years !!
     
  13. james1115

    james1115 Member
    from CT
    Messages: 81

    ok so I am ok with the wide out route as I have been using the blizzard 810 for the last 7 years. I think it is a great plow and out cleans my other straight blade 1,000 to 1. Will I need timbrens with the weight of the wide out and the diesel? Also how much will the wide out fisher run me installed? I looked at the western mvp and it looks like a nice plow. I like the trip blades vs the whole plow on the boss. Is there much of a price difference between the Boss and Western? Now I noticed on the Hiniker the whole plow trips not just the blade llike it does in the western. What about meyers I haven't heard anything about them in all this talk. Are they just old technology? Now to answer the guys post earlier about plowing deep country drifts. I live in Connecticut so for the most part we don't get 100 inches per year but like last winter I was pushing through 30-40 inch drifts on some of the driveways I have that are 300-400 ft long so the height and ability to throw the snow off the driveway would be a factor. With my blizzard I never ran into a problem as it was a very tall plow. I would have gotten another blizzard I just heard the new ones are junk and there is no dealer anywhere near me and the thing kept having problems. I really want something that is just going to work when I put it on lol is that too much to ask? haha should I just go with ole reliable straight blade?
     
  14. plowfever

    plowfever Senior Member
    Messages: 234

    I have used both the Boss XT V's and a Hiniker V and would pick the Hiniker over the Boss any day of the week. The Hiniker trip edge is awesome and is not to sensitive that it trips on everything either. But with all that said if I was going to buy a new plow I would go with either the wideout, xls fisher or blizzard power plow. As you know those blizzards move a ton of snow in a hurry and you will be great disappointed if you are expecting a V to move as much. I have had a blizzard for 5-6 years now and that is still the plow of choice for me over all the others!
     
  15. james1115

    james1115 Member
    from CT
    Messages: 81

    I liked the blizzard bit it seemed every time I went to hook it up the last 2 years there was always a problem. I heard the new blizzards are even worse. I also just called a fisher dealer and they said 6500you installed for a xls. That is absolutely rediculous! Lol
     
  16. plowfever

    plowfever Senior Member
    Messages: 234

    That's seems about right. I know the xls is trip edge over the blizzard is full trip so I am sure that adds to the cost. I guess it all depends on what you want and need. I know for my application a expandable wing plow is the only way to go. You might check out snowdogg also I know they have one out as well and it will more than likely be cheaper than the fisher.
     
  17. james1115

    james1115 Member
    from CT
    Messages: 81

    I liked the blizzard bit it seemed every time I went to hook it up the last 2 years there was always a problem. I heard the new blizzards are even worse. I also just called a fisher dealer and they said 6500you installed for a xls. That is absolutely rediculous! Lol
     
  18. james1115

    james1115 Member
    from CT
    Messages: 81

    I found a used xls for 4500you maybe I will go check that out. How did they change the design from the original blizzard 810?
     
  19. plowfever

    plowfever Senior Member
    Messages: 234

    I am not sure what they have changed. I have the old 810 and I haven't had any real issues with it other than routine maintenance.