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New Concrete

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by RONK, Sep 14, 2014.

  1. RONK

    RONK Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 126

    I have a property with new concrete walks,what ice melt product can I use that won't damage the new concrete?Thanks.
     
  2. SnowGuy73

    SnowGuy73 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,868

    Use straight salt, I do with no problems.
     
  3. Ne1

    Ne1 Senior Member
    Messages: 370

    In my experience doing sites that are new is that using salt the first year will void all warranty that property owner has from contractor.
     
  4. lilweeds

    lilweeds PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,178

    All depends on temperature.
     
  5. 98Chevy2500

    98Chevy2500 Senior Member
    Messages: 147

    Salt it heavy and get it dry before nightfall, you won't have any problems.
     
  6. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,694




    What????.........Please go into further detail....:help:
     
  7. Bossman 92

    Bossman 92 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,771

    Yea what if all that salt gets hungry for a midnight snack??? That new concrete is a goner! :salute:
     
  8. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,694



    :laughing:...Its not only "Hungry" salt we have to worry about....Now its "Heavy" salt....:eek:
     
  9. lilweeds

    lilweeds PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,178

    Any deicing product can harm concrete. Mag and cal are chemically worse then salt. What typically destroys the walks is the liquid refreezing. The ice expands and messes up the surface. Use a good shovel or blower to get to the surface and only use deicers when absolutely necessary.
     
  10. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    Any links for mag being worse?
     
  11. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,694


    Not as much chemically worse than Salt.....It's the heat they create that could cause some issues





    Cement.org.....They have some articles that are pretty good.....You might have to do some searching.......:drinkup:
     
  12. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,882

    I need some popcorn.

    BTW, I've seen new concrete that had no treatment spall the the first winter. That should give the OP a hint.
     
  13. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,694

    You need to go out and put the cover on your Dodge and give her a kiss Goodnight.....:salute:
     
  14. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    Wasn't trying to start anything just curious. We use mag for sidewalks always have
     
  15. 98Chevy2500

    98Chevy2500 Senior Member
    Messages: 147

    Better be careful, the weight might crack it!
     
  16. lilweeds

    lilweeds PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,178

    Got that right Mark. I'm always amazed on the damage a dripping gutter does to concrete.
     
  17. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,882

    It wasn't you, these discussions almost always turn really interesting. Not yet on this one.
     
  18. Citytow

    Citytow Senior Member
    from phila
    Messages: 548

    little surprised here , I thought most of us knew about the freeze / thaw cycle and how water enters the cracks or joints of concrete , freezes overnite or for days , then a quick thaw will crack it while it tries to move upward .
    calcium is highly recommended and stays wet way below 0* on any concrete , calcium is also an additive of concrete. we still do use salt on concrete when temps are just below freezing .
     
  19. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,882

    And how many people really need calcium (and its associated issues) because their pavement temps are at 0 so often?

    I've salted concrete that was installed the previous couple months and never had a problem. Nothing to do with salt or calcium vs. concrete.
     
  20. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,694



    .........:popcorn:.........:drinkup:...........:jester: