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New 2500HD

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by HitchC&L, Mar 19, 2008.

  1. HitchC&L

    HitchC&L Member
    Messages: 57

    How do the new 2500HD's handle a plow. Im thinking an 8.5 fisher SS V.

    I know the older ones like mine (2002 2500HD...see pic) tend to sag because of the torsion bars, and I really dont like the torsion bar design, I considered a ford and a dodge, but I really am a chevy guy.

    It would be the 6.6 DMax, and most likely an extended cab/short bed, but MAYBE a CC/SB

    I heard something about them getting rid of the torsion bars on the new trucks, but I really havent done any research, so Im hoping you could fill me in
     
  2. William B.

    William B. Senior Member
    from S.E. IA
    Messages: 978

    They handle it the same. The new body style (07+) have the same frame and suspension as the classic body style HDs(01-07) The new half tons got coils up front but the 3/4 and 1 ton kept the torsion bars. There really isn't a problem with them and a plow when you add the proper ballast and a set of timbrens.
     
  3. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609




    coil springs? wtf? how are the coil springs working out. got me curious now.

    you mean coils for just the two wheel drive ones right?
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2008
  4. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Afraid not bri, coils on ALL 1/2 tons...2 or 4WD.

    More car like every year remember... :dizzy:
     
  5. ABES

    ABES PlowSite.com Addict
    from MN
    Messages: 1,322

    kind of off topic but i heard the new 2009 dodge rams will have coil springs on the back axle :dizzy:.
     
  6. HitchC&L

    HitchC&L Member
    Messages: 57

    O lord, Id like to see what kind of a suspension they put in there and how it works out.

    Do they make upgraded torsion bars? Like could I put a set of 3500 bars on a 2500? Or do they make something like that?
     
  7. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    You can run any bars you want as they all interchange.
     
  8. Bruce'sEx

    Bruce'sEx Senior Member
    Messages: 873

    Can't speak to as it handles the plow. the extended or the Crew cab. What I can say is if you go by e-match. those body styles with the Dmax. I think the only blade it's rated for is a 7.5RD. So keep that in mind. Also keep in mind that rating is considering passengers I believe.
     
  9. Newdude

    Newdude Senior Member
    Messages: 878

    http://allpar.com/model/ram/2009-ram.html

    go down to the part on the suspension, after the part about the engines. It seem svery practical even though it sounds very odd but, luckily its only in the 1/2 tons. Unlike GM's attempt at a coil over setup in rear, the dodge system is a multilink setup, not a 3-link setup.
     
  10. goose06

    goose06 Junior Member
    from NE Ohio
    Messages: 22

    I've got an '06 D/A Excab. Most manufacturers will only go 7.5 because of weight. I went with snoway and put an 8ft on with no restrictions. Also, regardless, timbrens will help out significantly
     
  11. samjr

    samjr Senior Member
    Messages: 480

    i got a 04 2500HD with 8.5 es-v

    i got a 04 2500HD EX cab with 8.5 es-v and i got my bar all tighten up and i got 11" from tire to fender and with blade on i get 9.5 and on plow i get 6" on the sides when i got her Ved prsport



    PS : be4 i tighten up my bars i had 9" from tire to fender
     
  12. samjr

    samjr Senior Member
    Messages: 480

    Wow

    i just did a Ematch on fisher site and this is what i got for my truck

    2004, CHEVY/GMC, K2500HD SILV/SIERRA.

    The vehicle has a 4x4 drive train, Ext Cab body style, 8.0 Box foot box, 6.0L V8 engine type, 4670 minimum FGAWR, 6084 minimum RGAWR, 9200 minimum GVWR, and HB3/HB4 headlamp type.

    The blade selected is 9' XBLADE SS. The control type selected is Handheld Control.

    The required ballast is 500 lbs.

    and then did 1 for the 6.6D and can only put on a 7.5

    2004, CHEVY/GMC, K2500HD SILV/SIERRA.

    The vehicle has a 4x4 drive train, Ext Cab body style, 8.0 Box foot box, 6.6L D engine type, 4800 minimum FGAWR, 6084 minimum RGAWR, 9200 minimum GVWR, and HB3/HB4 headlamp type.

    The blade selected is 7 1/2' RD . The control type selected is Handheld Control.

    The required ballast is 820 lbs.

    i don't get that 1 same truck just dif motor
     
  13. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    But very different in front axle weight.
     
  14. Bowtytek

    Bowtytek Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 46

    and doesn't the dmax weigh more than any gas engine???
     
  15. Bruce'sEx

    Bruce'sEx Senior Member
    Messages: 873

    yup it weighs more
     
  16. samjr

    samjr Senior Member
    Messages: 480

    O ya

    but u think GM wood beef up them under the 6.6 wow nice to know i was going to buy 1 this summer might goto a 1ton my 8.5 es-v came off a 1ton oftymusic
     
  17. Yaz

    Yaz PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,061

    Do some searching here.. Lot's of posts about this.. And tons of guys are running bigger blades with them.
     
  18. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,937

    There isn't any difference between a 2500hd and a 3500 up front. If you can find someone to install it, or do it yourself, go ahead and put any plow you want on there. Just because the manufacturer rates it different doesn't mean a diesel won't carry it. The heavier diesel uses up more of the available front axle weight rating. But it isn't like if you go over by a bit the torsion bars are going to shatter like glass. They will take a lot more for a long time. Those numbers are conservative. Kind of like payload, if your bed carrying payload capacity was 5000, and you put 5500 in it would you be worried?
    My Blizzard is more than my truck is rated for because of my diesel. But with the drw I need a big wide plow. I cranked my t-bars 5 turns, run a lot of ballast and haven't had a problem, doesn't sag a bit. If you think about it, you generally don't even carry it that much. This year was about 14 storms which is lot for this area. Then you subtract the time the plow is on the ground, and all it really ends up carrying it is to and from each job. My route is all within a 10 or 12 mile radius of home. I probably haven't "carried" my plow 1,000 miles in the 4 years I've had it.
     
  19. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,937

    I've had a 7', 7-1/2, two 8' Fishers and now the 810 Blizzard. Bigger is better. I actually had a 7-1/2 then an 8 on the same truck the following year. I didn't think the 6 inches would make much difference, but it was huge. Unbelievable for only 3 inches more on each side, but it keeps the rear wheels out of the snow for a lot longer. And the additional height made a big difference too.
     
  20. ServiceOnSite

    ServiceOnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 935

    i hate saying do a search but this topic has been beat to death. gm says dont but lots and lots of people do it. i myself do it. i have a crew cab diesel with an '8'2'' v boss. i added wings. also for a month and a half i had a 1 and 3/4 yard salter in my truck. plowed fine with it. no problems. use some timbrens and ballest and youll be fine. best of luck to you and stay away from those fords and dodges