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Need second opinion

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by daplowman, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. daplowman

    daplowman Member
    Messages: 65

    Okay here we go. I have a customer that is complaining about his bid. job takes approx 3/4 hr to do. plow and salt. Last year 150.00 thought that was on the low side bumped up to 180.00 "hence the complaining" what do you guys think would be fair. Also thinking about going seasonal with this guy average is 34.3" per year. Any help would be appreciated

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    140 X120' MULTIPLE OBSTRUCTIONS - STONE SURFACE

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  2. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    Does salting the gravel surface do any good?

    Is salt included in that price?

    If so....how much do you use each application and whats your cost for the salt you apply?

    If he's complaining about the price Id adjust the number back if its a deal breaker and you need the work.

    150 seems fair for that job if you are going off a 125 an hour index and including salt.

    To me anyhow.
     
  3. daplowman

    daplowman Member
    Messages: 65

    Salting helps, I keep the blade raised a bit so I don't scrape up all his stones. So the salt help to compensate for that. Salting is included, use about 500 lbs roughly
     
  4. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    Well. ....are you using bagged product at maybe 4 dollars for a 50lb bag? Or bulk. Bulk goes for 60 a ton here. I dont know what your actual salt cost is but most guys times 2 the cost to apply it whatever that is, is my understanding.

    Either way the guys getting a good fair price with either price 150 or 180. Bottom line is whether he will have you back at 180.

    Comprimise it to 165 see what he says.
     
  5. DJ Contracting

    DJ Contracting PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,392

    Good price but

    I just did a quick calc. and it's 16800 square feet @ 500 lbs of salt, thats 33lbs of salt per square foot cut back on the salt and increase your profit with the same price ($150.00).
     
  6. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    I was thinking 500 was a lot for that deal, but havent ever spread salt so I didnt do the math.

    Whats a good rate per square foot for salt. Or better yet per thousand for an average amount of icing. Not light and not heavy ice.
     
  7. DJ Contracting

    DJ Contracting PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,392

    I belive that 1lbs for every 100 square or 10x10, so he should be spreading about 160 to 170lbs for that account. Then he can keep the $150.00 price and make a bigger profit.
     
  8. BobC

    BobC Senior Member
    Messages: 129

    With the time your spending, the increase in fuel prices and insurances and the cost of you salt I think 180 is very reasonable. $150 was low and he probably is balking at the percentage of increase(20%) do $165 this year(10%)
     
  9. daplowman

    daplowman Member
    Messages: 65

    I think a came up with a win win

    Contracted for this year and next and the 180 rate, at least i know i have him next year