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Need More Traction

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Mike Paulsen, Nov 16, 2000.

  1. Mike Paulsen

    Mike Paulsen Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    Demoed a snowblower for my 20hr Walker a couple years back. Blew snow really well but had trouble with traction on some of my steeper driveways.Put atv tires on and it helped but didn't cure the problem. Any ideas?? Maybe a spray to make the tires more stick? No chains.
     
  2. Eric ELM

    Eric ELM Husband, Father, Friend, Mentor, Angel
    from Chicago
    Messages: 239

    Bar Tires

    The Bar type tires work the best in snow. I have a set on my 430 John Deere and with some added weight, you can't stop it. I can even back up hills with it in deep slushy snow, if needed. When I first got this unit 10 years ago, I put chains on turf tires and I couldn't get up my driveway on a 70 degree day. I went and got the bar tires and haven't had any problems at all. Do you have a cab on yours? I built one for my JD and it's warm as toast in there. If you want to see it, click on my signiture below and it's on my equipment page.
     
  3. diggerman

    diggerman Senior Member
    from Ames
    Messages: 700

    Try some wheel weights and bar tires that seems to work well.
     
  4. Mike Paulsen

    Mike Paulsen Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    What are bar tires. Do they just have tread desigh that goes straight across the tire?
     
  5. Eric ELM

    Eric ELM Husband, Father, Friend, Mentor, Angel
    from Chicago
    Messages: 239

    Mike

    If you looked at my equipment page, you can see the tires on the JD, especially in the upper left corner. You can see the left rear tire through the aerator in that picture. Even the tires on my Choppers are a sort of bar tire, called Boss II's, but the tire on the JD is just like a farm tractor tire, except a lot smaller. :)
     
  6. Mike Paulsen

    Mike Paulsen Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    Thanks Eric. Looked at your page the first time before my second post but didn't notice it by your aerator. Computor screen to small to see tread design on tractor (should have bought a 19 inch ). No I don't have a cab on the walker because I wasn't happy with traction so I didn't buy the snowblower. Now with the increase in accounts I thought about taking one more run at it.
    Thanks again
     
  7. Eric ELM

    Eric ELM Husband, Father, Friend, Mentor, Angel
    from Chicago
    Messages: 239

    Mike

    I have moved frozen snow piles with that JD and 54" plow that I was told, "No way can you move that much snow", but did it with no problems. I am very impressed with the traction it has. It also has traction lock, so if I get 1 wheel on slick stuff and one on dry, it has no problem.

    I also have a 48" 2 stage blower for it, so if we get snow drifts to deep for the truck, I throw the blower on and make a pass through the deep drifts. I keep the blower in the back of the truck for added weight, so I always have it with me. It mounts on the same mount the plow is mounted to. It also has a hydro motor to turn the chute with, but we use the plow most of the time. I use it for cleaning out next to the garage doors and other small areas. Works great. :)
     
  8. landscaper3

    landscaper3 Senior Member
    Messages: 309

    We put about 250lbs of salt in the GHS bagger (still bagged in case you were wandering) and they do make chains but not sure on the all terrain tires that we also use. You can also take the GHS bagger off and buy the pickup bed to use weight in also.
     
  9. Eric ELM

    Eric ELM Husband, Father, Friend, Mentor, Angel
    from Chicago
    Messages: 239

    Chains will mess up driveways when they spin. I wouldn't advise them at all.
     
  10. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    They are very similar to what I know as "rice and cane" tires. Here's a picture to give you all a better view of the style Eric is talking about.


    <img src="http://www.snowplowing-contractors.com/images/w_horsetires.jpg">

    These happen to have chains on them too. Not so much for snow, but for better traction in dirt when using the dirt blade on the front of this tiny tractor.

    ~Chuck
     
  11. jason2

    jason2 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 117

    Another name for that tread pattern is "chevron".
     
  12. Mike Paulsen

    Mike Paulsen Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    Thanks for the ideas. I tried putting weight in the GHS catcher back when I demoed it. It seemed to be kind of counter productive going up the driveway, maybe because the drive tires are pulling the weight. Worked good when I was backing up the driveways though. Think wheel weight sound like a good way to go. Going to the tire store to look at that type of tread.