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Need help with a bid

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by AFSPLOWING, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. AFSPLOWING

    AFSPLOWING Member
    Messages: 62

    I have a guy who wants to sub contract me 4 Banks local to my county.
    He wants a bid for the following

    Specifications:
    Plowing
    Salt lot
    Shovel walks
    Calcium chloride walks

    This would be my first commercial Bid.2" Trigger

    Any help would be appreciated.:mechanic:

    10578496-provident-banks-new-branch-in-nyack-ny.jpg
     
  2. AFSPLOWING

    AFSPLOWING Member
    Messages: 62

  3. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Boy, he better be prepared to share the wealth...I would need 100 a push, and 80 plus materials for sanding, and 50 and materials for shoveling and c.cl.
     
  4. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    Buswell is bid king

    You on the money
     
  5. REAPER

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228

    If he wants to sub you then he should already have his prices. Ask him what 85% of what he is getting is and that's what you will take if it is enough.
    Banks are a tough cookie. They may say 2" trigger but what they really mean is zero tolerance. Especially for the ATM and walks.
    That 1st picture looks almost exactly like a bank I did here 2 years ago. The drive thru lanes were a pain because of where the snow had to be pushed to get stacked and how narrow they were. Salt we did use!!!

    They were also the slowest payers on any account we have done and is the reason we dropped them after one year. The last 2 payments were not sent out until the following November when it was time to put out stakes again for the next season. After payment was made they were told to find someone else.
     
  6. REAPER

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228

    You can not bid from a couple states away with a price. NY has different markets. In my opine the bid he put out is low. We were getting more in IL per time, but it was a seasonal contract that played in our favor that year.
     
  7. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    I didn't bid on this I only comment on Buswell post

    If I did bid on it
    It would be a 1'' trigger on plowing salt anything under that and would have a salt pretreatment in the bid
    People always want sue banks for a slip/fall
     
  8. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    10-12k for you on a seasonal price.
     
  9. REAPER

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228

    Nailed it! Thumbs Up
     
  10. AFSPLOWING

    AFSPLOWING Member
    Messages: 62

    I will write something up he Sounds like a cheapo lol.i would rather do it seasonal then per occurrence.Thanks For the input Keep it coming fellas!
     
  11. Pool&Plow

    Pool&Plow Junior Member
    Messages: 23

    Yep, 12k is where it should be on a seasonal with salt and walks included. These lots have tons of in-out traffic and are a PIA during the day, you'll make twice as many visits as you think you would. They need to be serviced often and the price reflects that.
     
  12. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

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  13. snowpro44

    snowpro44 Member
    Messages: 45

    Computer programs are good for keeping your books..I tend too listen too the old timers..they know how..and have made money in this business..stick together!!respect each other no matter how long youve been plowing!!thats what keeps the rates up!!!cutthroats and lowballer usally dont last..SERVICE>>SERVICE>>SERVICE!!thats what keeps you in business and the cash flowing..
     
  14. missbhaven

    missbhaven Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Agree

    I agree with you on your pricing.:salute:
     
  15. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

    Awesome

    Awesome post. Nice to see someone with a good attitude. There is enough work out there for everyone. If we respect each other and treat each other professionally the industry will be better for it. We don't have to like everyone, but we should certainly respect each other.