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Need help for Helicopter pad

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by French frog, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. French frog

    French frog Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Hi .. I need some help .. Im looking for what kind of de icing agent I have to use for a helicopter pad.. Im currently tendering on two Hospitals and one has the pad...

    Hope i can get some help for all of you..

    Thanks

    Froggy
     
  2. MIDTOWNPC

    MIDTOWNPC PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,452

    Kingston. Welcome
    :drinkup:
    Im west of you in Cobourg Ontario.
     
  3. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    It's a little surprising your client isn't specifying the product for you. I could suggest two granular products most airports approve to be used around aircraft.

    NACC would be one....Peak SF would be the other. Both have rust inhibitors and are FAA approved.

    Google is your friend for more learning and details on these...

    Good luck to you.:salute:
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2010
  4. SNOWLORD

    SNOWLORD Senior Member
    from MN
    Messages: 610

    I am very surprised that the heliports you speak of arent heated, the two in my area are so we never have an issue with ice or snow.
     
  5. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    I thought plow truck were not allowed to touch aircraft run ways and pads because the salt trace on the tires. But I guess I was wrong. Jim, if you could say the products on here because I am intrested in hearing too! Thanks


    -A.J.
     
  6. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985



    AJ...he did say the products..Look at the red ink
     
  7. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Hot sand,like they use on airport runways.
     
  8. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

  9. French frog

    French frog Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Thanks guys.. much appericated..

    Well I guess we will put in the tender and cross our or should say my fingers....
     
  10. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    Mine too....:salute:

    My thought was if he has only one simple pad to treat ~ purchasing, handling, storing and applying a small quantity of 55lb bags might make life easier for him.
     
  11. French frog

    French frog Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Jd dave

    Hi.. JD.. I was wondering if you would have the number for the Depot that carries Croytech

    Thanks
     
  12. leon

    leon Senior Member
    Messages: 872

    helipad etc.

    ========================================================================


    one option is ground hammermilled limestone dust which is inexpensive
    and used here, salt is used on runways in the lower fourty eight in many
    areas but is corrosive.

    Another option which leaves no residue and a dry surface is this one-


    using the railroads example- they use a jet engine mounted on a self propelled rail carrier-
    to deice and totally remove ice and snow from switches and also dries the entire area.

    Using that railroad example you can use the largest salamader available with a kerosene fuel and melt and dry the pad at the same time using a diverter nozzle prefabricated at a sheet metal shop and mounted on the salamander.

    you would only have push the salamander back and forth a few times to clear snow and ice over a wide area and have a dry helicopter landing pad.

    Dont laugh it works Conrail did it for years and CSX has continued to do it in the buffalo and albany yards

    Just remember the transport gurney wheels are very small, barely four square inches of wheel contacts the ground or pathway and the gurney is top heavy when under way with a victim coming or going to the helipad.


    leon









     
  13. aquacaldo

    aquacaldo Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    Heat it

    I would get the heli pad heated. No worries and no problems. You never know when the temp can rapidly change. I would invest in a heated pad. It seems like the safest solution.
     
  14. NorthernSvc's

    NorthernSvc's Senior Member
    Messages: 766

    stay awa from granulars FOB very bad things would happen if they got blown up from the rotors and found their way into the engines.... stick with liquids around helicopter pads....
     
  15. Westhardt Corp.

    Westhardt Corp. Senior Member
    Messages: 845

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    This guy gets it. Helicopters + granular anything is a very bad idea.

    Liquids are the only way to go.