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Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by SIXINAROW1, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. SIXINAROW1

    SIXINAROW1 Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    The address is 6 Esterbrook Drive Cherry Hill, NJ 08003.
    Its my work location. We are an auto auction so cars will be in the lot at times. I do position the cars so I can get the majority of the lot plowed before I have to brush off the cars and plow that area.
    I do plow the entry road into the building because it an industrial area.
    I've done it last year and anyway you plow you always end up with a triangle so you are going over plowed areas twice.
    I'm supposed to talk with my boss tomorrow about it and give him a price.
    Last year I did it for the maintence guy here because we worked at the same place before and he understands how I'd like the lot plowed, and he cant be waiting around to plow the with the cars that need to be moved. He has other plow jobs he has to do.
    Last year he billed my boss for $6800 with 55 plus inches of snow.
    My boss went ape S^*t and didn't pay. I settled for $1500.
    I'll do it but I really don't want to plow with my truck. Ive spent a lot on it getting it to the condition it is in now. I'll do it but want to make some money!!!!!
    Help
    Thanks for the responses and sorry its so long
    Heres what I was thinking on price
    2-4in $100 per hr
    6-8in $150 per hr
    10-12in $200 per hr
    12plus $250 per hr
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2014
  2. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,659

    So your boss is an ahole who doesn't pay his bills but you're going to work for him knowing full well he stiffed you last year? OK I'm trying to make sense of this. If you want to work for free why not get your truck lettered up and go work for an nsp so you get your name out there. Chances are they might pay you in June but it's better than knowing that your boss isn't going to pay.
     
  3. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,958

    I'm with pet on this one
    Also how are you going to get money for 8 inches if you plow at 4 then later at 2 and maybe 2 again?
     
  4. JustJeff

    JustJeff 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,028

    I'll do it but I really don't want to plow with my truck. Ive spent a lot on it getting it to the condition it is in now. I'll do it but want to make some money!!!!!

    So what exactly would you plow it with while you're not getting paid????
     
  5. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 583

    You don't charge hourly and by the inch. One or the other. But why would you even talk to your boss about this?
    Wait, something seems fishy. Who plows all season long and then submits one bill at the end of the season for over $6000? And then settles $1500?
     
  6. Snow tracker

    Snow tracker Senior Member
    Messages: 127

    I believe we went over this last year:dizzy:

    The definition of insanity is continuing to do the exact same thing and expect different results.

    I read your old posts from last year and you posted "I really don't want to" quiet a few times

    Why is this year different than last year? Do you want to plow for nothing or not?
     
  7. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    So your boss is a scumbag, ****** bag, pos that needs his face caved in, and you want to plow for $5,300 less than the guy who worked his a$$ off for the money last year? Just trying to get the details right before I award the "Lowballer - Dirtbag" of the 2014/15 Season early.
     
  8. k1768

    k1768 Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 488

    I recall this from last year as well.
     
  9. SIXINAROW1

    SIXINAROW1 Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    Yup same thing as last year. I'm taking my proposal off the table. I'll let him deal with someone else on this.
     
  10. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,958

    Good call....
     
  11. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

    Good call

    At least by not doing it you are not wasting your equipment away.
     
  12. F250/XLS

    F250/XLS Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 142

    Sixinarow1 ,,, i hope its not thé amount of Times You need to get screwed to understamd ??? Good luck 'n
     
  13. SIXINAROW1

    SIXINAROW1 Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    Guys, Thanks for the responses. I feel a lot better knowing I wont be doing it for my job. He can pay someone else and not get the job I'd do. Last year we were open and ready for business every single time. This year will be a bit different while we have to wait for the plow operator to come back from his route to finish our lot.
     
  14. F250/XLS

    F250/XLS Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 142

    Good choice i also decided not to mix my job with my business always conflictuel
     
  15. XYZSnowPros

    XYZSnowPros Member
    Messages: 36

    Holy christ! He payed you 1500.00????? 55 inches of snow? How many events? Salt or any deicing as well? AND YOU CLEARED AND MOVED ALL THE CARS???????? If I looked up your lot correctly..just sigh. I have 3 residential driveways that add up to the same amount of space. If I told you what just those 3 pay me for the season you would probably shoot yourself. Sorry man, your boss is a jerk and a user. More than likely a bit of a sociopath as well. Thank god you didn't get "used" again this winter. Good for you. Stick to your guns!
     
  16. SIXINAROW1

    SIXINAROW1 Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    He's just cheap. He thinks everything is cheaper but when he was handed a bill he freaked out. Last year I did the lot the way Ive done it when I've worked at car dealerships. Yes it was long hours but the lot was cleared and ready for business every snow fall. I have my plow stored in a friends warehouse, I have a key and can get it anytime. He needs to see what actually needs to be done during a snow. He's showed up when the job was 90% done so he thinks it easy and quick.
    There is less stress at my job knowing I wont be doing it
     
  17. SIXINAROW1

    SIXINAROW1 Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    Well its snowing in NJ and my boss is scrambling for a snow plow company. I saw the guys estimate and if my boss only looked at my proposal I was cheaper. I'm glad my plow is still in storage and I get to sleep in tomorrow
     
  18. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,958

    Good for you. Stick to your guns Don't cave
     
  19. SIXINAROW1

    SIXINAROW1 Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    Oh I'm going to. Funny thing is he wanted me here at 7am tomorrow to call the new snow guy in to start plowing if it was necessary. I politely declined
     
  20. burtle

    burtle Member
    from USA
    Messages: 52

    I would find a new job if I were you